Good Ammo For Short Barrel 45 acp
This is a discussion on Good Ammo For Short Barrel 45 acp within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I wanted to get a feel for what would be considered a good self defense load for my V-10. I carry corbon 165gr JHP +P ...
December 30th, 2011 12:14 PM
Good Ammo For Short Barrel 45 acp
I wanted to get a feel for what would be considered a good self defense load for my V-10. I carry corbon 165gr JHP +P ammo in it now ( well ever since I bought it oh soo long ago when it first came out) it feeds & extracts with no problems ( even with those huge hollow points ) I've read now that the light & fast are a thing of the past & that the heavy & slower loads are the way to go now a days, is there any truth to this? If there is I would like to pose a question then, should I replace my time trusted ccw load for something like a Golden Saber in 185gr HP +P or even the Golden Saber in the 230gr HP at the standard pressure loading.... OR would I be better off with the Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 45 ACP 230gr JHP? I would also like to find something in a nickel case too, any insight / thoughts would be great
December 30th, 2011 08:56 PM
What I have read indicates that modern ammunition is not dependant on speed for expansion, the expansion is more a product of the metallurgy used in the bullet. The short barrel ammo has a slightly different metallurgy/composition to the bullet and a faster burning powder to give a more complete burn in the shorter barrel. I dont remember what was considered short barrel , I'm thinking 3.5 inches or shorter but I may be wrong. In the larger caliber my preference is the 230gr in Federal HST or Speer Gold Dot, I just dont think the +P has much advantage in 45. The only short barrel cartridge I use is in my 38 J frame. In 38 and 9mm I do use +P. This is only my opinion, I am sure there are other members that are more knowledgeable than I am who can give more in depth info.
December 30th, 2011 09:02 PM
Just to add one additional point, Speer Gold Dot is the only brand that I know of that makes the short barrel ammo so that would be your choice. The part number is 23975, I believe it only comes in a 20rd box.
January 8th, 2012 09:30 PM
You may also want to consider Hornady Critical Defense. It expands pretty well out of my real short barreled 9mm's. Should do well in a short .45acp too. It's good ammo. Corbon DPX also has a design very condusive to expansion in short barrels too.
January 8th, 2012 09:32 PM
I use Winchester PDX1 in my Colt Defender.
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
January 8th, 2012 10:01 PM
Shorter barrel=heavier bullet.
Anything listed here that your pistol likes would do...
Barnes XPB 185 gr JHP (copper bullet)
Federal HST 230 gr JHP (P45HST2)
Federal HST 230 gr +P JHP (P45HST1)
Federal Tactical 230 gr JHP (LE45T1)
Speer Gold Dot 230 gr JHP
Speer Gold Dot 230 gr +P JHP
Winchester Ranger-T 230 gr JHP (RA45T)
Winchester Ranger-T 230 gr +P JHP (RA45TP)
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January 8th, 2012 10:05 PM
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January 9th, 2012 12:10 AM
CorBon DPX for 3 Inch .45 ACP
45 Auto 160gr DPX | CORŽBON/Glaser Self Defense | Dakota Ammo
The all-copper bullet construction conquers hard barriers like auto glass and steel while still maintaining its integrity. This is an optimum load for Law Enforcement. - Deep penetration on soft tissue 12-17 inches.
- Easily conquers hard barriers like auto glass and steel.
- Reduced recoil due to lighter-weight projectile.
- Lead-free projectile.
- Environmentally friendly!
*CERTIFIED: CALIFORNIA LEAD FREE*
- Caliber: 45 Auto
- Bullet Wt.: 160gr DPX
- Velocity: 1050fps
- Energy: 392ftlbs
- test Barrel Length: 3.0 Inches
20 rounds per box.
January 9th, 2012 01:05 AM
I have 45s in configurations from A SA 1911 Loaded -Taurus 45 Tracker 4"; S&W 1917; Glock 21 and 2 3"ers-a Para Ord WartHog and Detonics Combat Master VI SS. On the autos allthe feed ramps are polished with a Dremel tool. As a now retired State LEO Firearms guy-in the day I had access to lots of ammo and samples from dealers and I still have some of those contacts and samples. The S&W 1917 is GI Ball only. The others feed and shoot all revolverthe common LE and Defense loads w/o issue. Federal HST+p is the carry load in my 3"ers. WW Ranger RA45TP is my SA 5" and G21 load. The Taurus revolver, carried while fishing, has shot shells for snakes/old Fereral 230/230+p ammo. Little experience with Remington stuff-their demo for the local SO was a dud-all other ammo tested after they left beat them! I kiled 3 hogs for the frezzer and a large cow for a neighbor with the Detonics loaded with Corbon 165gr +Ps. They are great bullets but given my LEO access too expensive.
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