Allow me to apply my post-scalpel here a bit, if you abide turn-about as fair play…
Are you suggesting that anyone not armed with a .45 ACP will cause people to be injured or killed, whereas if the had been armed with a .45 ACP those injuries/deaths would have been prevented? I’m very curious as to how one might reach such an absolute determination…
Originally Posted by Archie
Everything you have expressed is merely your personal opinion, though stated as FACT, and padded with your veneer of being a former police officer who prides himself on refusing to learn anything not taught 20+ years ago. Which is more valid?
What Officer Wolfe expressed in his original posting is merely his opinion, padded with the veneer of being a real police officer. He writes as if to set all of us ignernt people right, and does not present any serious facts or evidence to sustain his claims. Some of his claims, like my .40 S&W pistol recoils more than a .45 ACP, are just flat wrong.
Also, the average muzzle energy of the .40S&W is around 150 ft/lbs higher than the average muzzle energy of the .45 ACP. Please provide the physics you have employed to determine that there is no way for the round with the higher energy on one end to not have higher energy on the other end…
I read it, but I dismissed everything you said out of hand as soon as you claimed the .45ACP was "the best" semi-auto round ever to have existed. "The best" is a matter of circumstance, and depends on far too many variables for anyone to claim, ever, that one round is "the best" across all spectra and in every situation. Anyone with the abject lack of humility required to make statements like that – coupled with all the other condescension and insulting language – merits very little respect for their opinions, as far as I’m concerned.
Did anyone notice that? Did anyone read my entire post, other than Glockman10mm? Did anyone read Officer Wolfe's? He presents 'observations' which are rather slanted views from a very limited perspective. No argument, no logic, no chain of thought. I'm not quibbling over his grammar, I'm bothered by his lack of observation and articulation. And - sorry to sound picky - he uses phrases he does not understand. (Be brave someone, look up the definition of 'point blank'.)
And yes, he misstated the ranges at which his agency qualifies. That hardly makes anything and everything he says invalid. And yes, also, the true definition of point blank has been wholly eclipsed by the “commonly accepted” definition, but I doubt that more than a handful of us here – on a forum devoted to such things – knew the true definition without looking it up. Again, hardly cause for personal attacks.
But, wait…isn’t the .45 ACP “the best?” Isn’t that as close to magic as we can hope for? After all, it’s “the best.” It’s amazing that so many individuals, police departments, federal agencies, militaries, criminals, and others who routinely use pistols as part of their daily life have missed this obvious fact! Surely, after reading your post, they will all see the error of their ways and change over immediately. After all, who would knowingly choose anything other than “the best?”
I have preached the doctrine of good solid hits for years. Nothing will replace proper shooting. However, Officer Wolfe implies the only way to get good solid hits to revert to a lesser caliber. Sorry, that will not do. High capacity will not do. The .45 ACP he gave up on - rather than practice and learn better - wasn't magic and neither is the 9x19 he carries now because he thinks it will make him a better shooter. It won't, by the way.
That’s one definition. Another might be that a “dinosaur” is too lazy, self-righteous, or otherwise emotionally invested in their own opinions to look objectively at anyone else’s. All the battlefields of all the world are littered with the bones of those sorts of “dinosaurs.”
I am a dinosaur. I wear that title with honor. Being a dinosaur means I know how to shoot the rounds I've got, rather than plan a fast reload so I can blaze away some more. Being a dinosaur means I've learned from older dinosaurs, and not the current crop of training 'experts' who ignore all the hard learned lessons us old dinosaurs learned.
Interestingly, I was just thinking the same thing, for your subordinates. Yes, god save them from realistic training. Yes, god save them from seeking whatever cover is available. Save them from the death and dismemberment that will surely befall them immediately upon carrying anything other than a .45 ACP… Sigh.
Officer Wolfe won't read this. He will just comfort himself with calling me a 'vulture', since I disagree with him and have reasons for my opinions other than unexamined prejudices. I won't swallow his poorly considered thoughts without question. His ego is far too fragile and he knows he's lacking. Which will prevent him from admitting any mistakes or deficiencies he has and correcting them. He'll probably have a long career and be a 'manager' someday. Too bad for his subordinates.
“Don’t accept everything I say” will be easy advice to follow, indeed.
But I'm not trying to either offend Officer Wolfe or even get him to change what he thinks. I'm far more concerned about the other people reading this thread; I'd prefer you all to hear another side of things and find out things on your own. For that matter, don't accept everything I say; try it out and work at the problem instead of being convinced there's a golden gun or magic bullet. You're all big kids, think for yourselves.