Quick Question - Which one? 45 acp or 357 mag

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    I'm unconcerned about bear attacks for I don't frequent bear habitat but would not give any consideration to spray as an intermediate step in defense against a bear. If I've determined that the bear is enough of a threat to require the use of spray then he will be shot instead.
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    The 45 ought to do the trick, if you're up to it. Cor Bon loads their 45 auto DPX +p, over 450 ft lbs with a copper bullet, and with 7+1 I don't feel undergunned. The hot loaded 45 rivals the 10mm. In MN back country I carry a 20 oz 5 shot ported titanium 41 with Federal 250 grain hard Cast Core bullets. It beats the 10mm, and I'd be lucky to get all 5 shots off. Black bear can hit 35 mph, and zero to 40 yards doesn't take long with four claw drive. If they come at you with head down, the hump is your best target. You have to keep looking up for bear cubs and mountain lions.

    In big bear country, I'd rely on a 12 ga slug, my 338WM, or a 440 grain hard cast for my 500.
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    Friend of mine is in the mountains a lot on weekends hiking and exploring. He carries a Glock 10mm on his hip and a pistol grip shotgun attached to his hiking pack.

    Of the two choices though? Thought choice. A .357 is a devastating round but you can't carry as many as a .45 ACP. What about a .357 Sig?

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    I know I would leave nothing but a rather pasty-brown blur behind me as I vacated the area where someone was shooting a .357 in my direction.
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    I'd say the .357 with 170 or 180 grain bullets preferably a Speer Deep curl or some sort of cast bullet

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    I know I would leave nothing but a rather pasty-brown blur behind me as I vacated the area where someone was shooting a .357 in my direction.

    There fixed it for you
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    I vote for the one with the biggest and most-est boolits Once a bear started charging me, I'm sure I would empty whatever gun I was carrying, have a bowel movement and say a few choice words before I fell over from a heart attack

    Seriously though, I grew up, so to speak on .38 & .357, so I've always been a little partial to magnums. However, I do like the "big hole" effect of a 45 + the higher capacity of the Glock.

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    Just ordered my KKM 10mm Barrel and 2 magazines for my G21.
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    In bear country a 44 is a necessity----and I have seen a few that made me switch to a 50 as a backup while hunting

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmft View Post
    In bear country a 44 is a necessity----and I have seen a few that made me switch to a 50 as a backup while hunting
    Well, not really. Black bears are not hard to kill. The question posed by the OP really matters not if they are facing black bears. Both rounds are capable of killing most black bears easily enough. You don't need a lot of rounds to do the job if you can put the rounds where they matter.

    For brown bears, I would agree that I would not want anything less than a .44 mag as my sidearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkruf View Post
    Just ordered my KKM 10mm Barrel and 2 magazines for my G21.
    16 rounds of 10mm.....before the 15 round reload. I think you will be happy with your decision, I sure am with mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJD1968 View Post
    16 rounds of 10mm.....before the 15 round reload. I think you will be happy with your decision, I sure am with mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevolvingMag View Post
    I would have to say .357 as well. The .45 might have more ammo per load, and be the heavier round, but the .357 has more punch behind it. And, if nothing else the 'BANG' would most likely run it off.

    I know I would leave nothing but a rather pasty-white blur behind me as I vacated the area where someone was shooting a .357 in my direction.
    Make that pasty white blur with a long brown streak...


    I would opt for the 357 as well.
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