Wow! I know what ammo I'm buying now!
This is a discussion on .38 special +p Remington Golden Saber (gel Test) within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; this round performed pretty good,especially from a 2"snub and through 4 layers of denium..definitely worth consideration for carry in a S&W 442/642 or Ruger lcr.38+p ...
this round performed pretty good,especially from a 2"snub and through 4 layers of denium..definitely worth consideration for carry in a S&W 442/642 or Ruger lcr.38+p
.38 Special +P Remington Golden Saber Ammo Gel test - YouTube
Wow! I know what ammo I'm buying now!
I like the work that this gent does. I find his ballistics test pretty informative and valid.
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Well done. Always good to see some validation of my carry ammo.
On a related note, I practice with Remington 125 Gr +P SJHP, as the ballistics almost match the Golden Sabers 125 + P. I wonder how the "el cheapo" SJHP's perform under the same conditions.
Unless real ballistic gelatin that's been calibrated to the FBI protocol standard is being used and to a repatable scientific standard I put no weight into these informal amateur you tube video tests.
The poster even warns -
Penetration and expansion test of the .38 Special +P Remington Golden Saber 125 gr JHP using a diluted form of SIM-test Ballistic testing Media. This format is comparable to ballistic gel, and includes four layers of denim. Video includes brief overview of the cartridge, recoil shots, and one shot test. Post-shot evaluation shows bullet path through the block, average diameter, and retained weight. test gun was a S&W 438 Airweight, 2" barrel.
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Looks to me like everything did its job there.
Bullet did great!.
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here's a few more popular choices in.38 special,for comparison...
Speer Gold Dot .38 Special +P 135 gr Ammo test - YouTube
Winchester PDX1 Bonded .38 Special +P *** REtest *** - YouTube
38 Special Critical Defense Ballistic Gel test - YouTube
Interesting results re PDX1! Thanks for putting these together.
Crue2009, have you done any of the old FBI loads or some of the bulk semi-jacketed hollow points? That would be interesting as well....
From what I have read, this ammo has performed well in actual shootings with it? I have to think that the impromptu gel tests are somewhat corroborated by actual results. According to updated stats from Evan Marshall post 9/11 this specific ammo has 67% one shot stop percentage, not including shots to the head, neck or extremity shots. With that in mind, this is acceptable to me in a concealed carry/backup gun to my Glock 21!
The Golden Sabre rounds always seemed to have good penetration and expansion for the most part, their one drawback was the tendency to shed its jacket. They seem to have solved that issue with the bonded bullets except they are hard to find.
I carry the golden sabre's in my 642 partially because of this vid, and the fact that it seems to always be in stock at the local box stores.
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Most of what I've seen shows the Golden Sabres to perform not quite as well as HST's, Ranger T's, or Gold Dots in 9mm and .45 ACP. The differences are so slight, though, that I wouldn't worry about it.
Where the Golden Sabres seem to really shine is in .380 ACP. They're the best performing round ("on paper") that I've seen, and they seem to function the best of any ammo in finicky little .380 pistols.
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