Guys, check your 9mm PDX1 124 +Ps

Guys, check your 9mm PDX1 124 +Ps

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    Guys, check your 9mm PDX1 124 +Ps

    Yesterday I bought three boxes of Win PDX1 124 +Ps and this is what I found. The boxes have the same lot no. and I sent an email to Winchester.

    Five of what looked like a .357 bullets in 9mm cases. Two on right is the good ones.



    In my Sigma 9 barrel.

    Good:



    Bad:



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    Thanks for the heads up! Good post.
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    You're welcome.

    This may save your life. I noticed that the slide on my Sigma 9 wasn't in full battery and I couldn't pull the slide back. I had to get my rubber mallet and tapped it in til the slide will open. Checked all the boxes and the mags (including the PF9) and found 5 rounds like it. one in the Sigma mag plus the one in chamber and one in the PF9 mag.

    If I hadn't found it in the chamber I probably will find out the hard way. Scary thought. From now on I'm inspecting all the ammo. Should've done that in the first place. Lesson learned.

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    Did you contact winchester and let them know? Might be something they will want to look at.

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    Thats disappointing that they would screw that up. Was that from the factory seconds store?

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    I sent an email to Winchester also I bought them at Walmart. I don't think they're seconds because it's supposed to be elite bonded series. I won't buy seconds and that includes the value packs.

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    If the diameter at the mouth of the case is more than .380 I would suspect an oversized bullet. strange looking bullets in the pics I can see why they will not chamber. Look closley at the cartridge that was stuck in the gun and you may see that the bullet was touching the lands
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    Got two boxes of this I bought last Nov.-Dec. @ Meijer. In Mi.

    Lot #450k40c & What appears to be the same # except for the K looks like an x to me.
    Could be just my 51 year old used to be perfect eyes going on me.

    At any rate they all look good to me.
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    This is why I always "Chamber Check" ALL ammo that I will shoot in all my guns including Factory"Social Ammo" and my reloaded Range Ammo. If it does not slide in and out of the guage,then it goes into the trash can no matter if it is mine or some others. There is no excuse for any ammo to shoot that will not drop into and out of a chamber check guage or your barrel if that is all you have to use to see if it is good. I have had several Factory Loaded ammo that did not fit and function in my Check Guage and they went into the trash. Bad ammo will take your gun down in any situation and let you sit on the side lines until you get it fixed!
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    Thats comforting, I thought I was the only one supposed to screw up ammo loads.

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    Without gauging bullet diameter or weight,it's possible that the fatter bullets are different weight,and if you look at the ogive (where bullet tapers) ithe bullets look like they are sticking too far out of the case,that is why in reloading different bullet types/weights have different Over All Lengths due to chambers.YOU DEFINITELY HAVE 2 DIFFERENT BULLET TYPES IN THE SAME BOX WHICH IS BAD.
    I think products should carry warning labels like"WARNING PRODUCT WAS MADE ON A MONDAY OR FRIDAY"use at your own risk
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    trust me guys, I'm inspecting every friggin bullets that I get my hands on and that includes the range rounds. After seeing that both of my guns would've failed me (two in Sigma and one in PF9) in SD, I had a really scary thoughts.

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    I am still getting the Winchester Ranger T 124 bonded +P and have never noticed such a thing. This is amazing to think quality control at winchester has slid that much.
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    I haven't heard from Winchester yet. I figured they're going to ask for pics.

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    'Appreciate the heads-up. Our Walmart carries these, so I've switched over from Gold Dot in the last year. I just checked all my boxes and didn't find any problems.
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