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    Does caliber size really matter?

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    I'm not so certain that "... todays modern projectiles..." are as effective as all that. There's an awful lot of reliance placed on trick bullets, as will be seen when reading firearms forums posts, that may not be justified.

    Perhaps bigger should just be viewed as a simpler way to get to "better" than the placing of so much reliance on cutting edge hollow point and jacket designs effectively "enhancing" smaller caliber bullets' performance characteristics, many of which are marketing rehashes and repackaging.
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    To the OP...Your question was, Does size matter?...To answer, Not really. If you are carrying a service caliber, you should be fine. One thing to remember, hits are what counts, if you miss with a big one and miss with a little one, you still miss. Same goes for hits....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    I'm not so certain that "... todays modern projectiles..." are as effective as all that. There's an awful lot of reliance placed on trick bullets, as will be seen when reading firearms forums posts, that may not be justified.

    Perhaps bigger should just be viewed as a simpler way to get to "better" than the placing of so much reliance on cutting edge hollow point and jacket designs effectively "enhancing" smaller caliber bullets' performance characteristics, many of which are marketing rehashes and repackaging.
    By no means was my statement intended to be offered as scientific fact... just based on one's experiences. I have seen bodies with 2-3 9mm wounds... I have seen headless bodies thanks to a .50 cal... I guess what I was trying to make clear was that dead is dead and shot placement is key. However, there is some footage available, by Federal I believe, demonstrating different pistol rounds being fired into ballistics gel, and IMO, it they appear to be RELATIVELY effective. Penetration and wound channel are close. As far as some of the first 9mm JHP rounds, the higher velocity rounds were zipping through the target with little expansion, and then came the 147 grain which seemed to be moving too slowly to achieve proper expansion... They have now been engineered to perform as they were intended. BUT.... and I will always say, shoot what you are comfortable with.

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    There is a reason they try and make small bullets act like big bullets.
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    Got to exchange mutual "likes" on that simple and obvious bit of wisdom you just spoke, Gman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    There is a reason they try and make small bullets act like big bullets.
    Infallable logic.
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    Caliber matters, but it's way down the list. Reliability (in your weapon), Accuracy and Penetration are a lot more important.
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    Size matters to a point.
    If size never mattered then might as well go with 22lr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDetailer View Post
    Twenty or so years ago, caliber was a bigger factor. With todays modern projectiles, you can more or less choose whichever caliber YOU are most comfortable shooting. Quit the "bigger is better" mentality. And before I get flamed, yes, a .50 will kill, but it won't make a BG any more dead than a well placed 9mm round.

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    A badly placed 50 will kill.

    A larger caliber gives more room for quick shot error. There are times you cannot level and aim, and close a skilled knife beats a gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swmft View Post
    A badly placed 50 will kill.

    A larger caliber gives more room for quick shot error. There are times you cannot level and aim, and close a skilled knife beats a gun.
    Absolutely... A larger caliber is a little more forgiving when it come to shot placement... However, a smaller caliber, say a 9mm does allow for both faster re-acquisition and followup shots. And I don't know too many individuals packing a Barrett or S&W 500...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    There is a reason they try and make small bullets act like big bullets.
    That just became my new signature line.

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    Unhappy See Rule #9

    Rule Nine. Pls read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetpilot1 View Post
    Rule Nine. Pls read.
    Hi Jetpilot1;

    Rule Nine of what?

    We'd read it if you'd provide its source.
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    I think rule 9 is: don't date a co-worker.

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