Speer Gold Dots for short barrels

This is a discussion on Speer Gold Dots for short barrels within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Jasgo brought in some good info the Speers get my vote also. though they shoot to point of aim in my 3" M60 and the ...

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    Jasgo brought in some good info
    the Speers get my vote also. though they shoot to point of aim in my 3" M60
    and the percieved recoil is minimal, they are expensive...

    and im a bit miffed as i have not been able to replicate the V with any powder i
    have on hand. suggestions???
    i can go to a lighter bullet but its work;
    and than i gotz to dig out the crony and percieved trumps the #'s anyways
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    Thanks CC.

    You know your stuff. Not too many would look for a 3" barreled J-frame. Not that much more difficult to conceal yet you gain sight radius, a little more velocity, and complete ejection of the empty cases. I think it's kind of difficult to find that barrel length unless a special order. I have never really seen any around when looking around gunshops or even shows.

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    Claude I will pm you later with my loads for the 135gr sb gold dots.

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    I've noticed more than a couple have stated that the Gold Dots are expensive...I don't know where you're buying yours, but I'm paying $31.00 for a box of 50.
    He doesn't always have them so I buy at least 2-3 boxes at a time.
    It is the same link I put in my earlier post #6.
    I also buy my Winchester Ranger T's in 9mm+P from the same place at $29.00 for a box of 50
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    Just an FYI, I did find the SB ammo available online at a few places. I just did a Google Search and clicked "shopping" and got this:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=chea...w=1280&bih=691

    They're available, but they're not cheap.

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    Claude,

    Here is my load info. i will share it publicly as it does not deviate from the published data specs.

    I use the following two loads: ( min/max according to speer manual in parentheses)

    135gr Speer Short barrel Gold Dot HP

    COAL: 1.450"

    AA#5: 6.9 grains ( 6.6 - 7.0 ) gives me an average of 1010 out of my LCR

    Power Pistol: 6.1 grains (6.0 - 6.4) gives me an average of 990 out of my LCR

    Both using CCI primers

    I prefer and use the power pistol. Less powder, velocity levels comparable.

    I haven't done any extensive testing with the Cobra yet but I plan to shortly.

    The data sheet is attached.
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    acchevy...power pistol i have. though i only stock 125, 130 & 158gr in .357 hard lead

    i'll put on my black hat this week and stir the pot.
    look to the east on sunday morning for the mushrooom cloud...
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    The Natchez link above has the 135 grain Speer for sale in stock, I just bought 500 bullets the other day.

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    Three inch Model 60, it's a Connecticut thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cory1022 View Post
    Three inch Model 60, it's a Connecticut thing.
    ya think...
    at the range earlier and a friend ask for right of 1st refusal and a familiar stranger made an
    unsoliciteded offer (rather generous in fact).

    and i was there to investigate a 5.5" redhawk 44 mag---

    its a keeper.
    i enjoyed all but the most powerful that are rifle only rounds.
    wouldn.t have been able to type otherwise.
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    Just bought a box from cheaper then dirt...
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    My Seecamp loves Gold Dots and the barrel is 2".
    Can't get much more of a "short barrel" than that.

    But......be aware that even high quality Gold Dots can vary quite a bit.
    The Seecamp requires OAL < .910" . Mine are fine, but I've seen some Gold Dots
    that exceed that limit by quite a bit.
    Find a box your gun likes, shoot most at the range, then keep the rest for carry.
    (I'm talking .32)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guns and more View Post
    My Seecamp loves Gold Dots and the barrel is 2".
    Can't get much more of a "short barrel" than that.

    But......be aware that even high quality Gold Dots can vary quite a bit.
    The Seecamp requires OAL < .910" . Mine are fine, but I've seen some Gold Dots
    that exceed that limit by quite a bit.
    Find a box your gun likes, shoot most at the range, then keep the rest for carry.
    (I'm talking .32)
    Have you run a lot of them through your Seecamp? I have an LWS32 too but still using silvertips from quite awhile back. Thinking about getting fresh .32 ammo and was deciding between Gold Dots or XTPs. Kind of off topic, but you should look at the Corbon .32 velocities (not sure about OAL specs). Pressures must be very high.

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