Just curious what you feel is the better defensive round in a .380, thanks for taking the time.
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JHP in the summer / FMJ in the winter
I don't have a clue but I like polls
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Just curious what you feel is the better defensive round in a .380, thanks for taking the time.
Disclaimer:
My opinion shouldn't be taken seriously due to the fact that I've been shooting guns for over 30 years and have only recently been active on gun forums, where all the real world knowledge apparently is.
Get the bullet in there and deep enough to do some good with good hits. FMJ and good, accurate hits are the only way to go with .380.
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Best stuff IMO is the BuffaloBore Hard cast 100gr +p round...![]()
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Hi gottabkiddin;
I laid in a long-term supply of that imported Santa Barbara flat nosed (slightly concave actually) FMJ .380 that was widely available back in 2005-2006. It's hot stuff, cranking well over 1000 fps over the chronograph screens from even the stub barrel of the P3AT and hits hard for a weenie .380. The Buffalo Bore looks a notch or two better than the Santa Barbara ammo though. I keep intending to try it but can't remember to pick up some on the infrequent occasions I'm near a retail outlet that sells BB.
“No possible rapidity of fire can atone for habitual carelessness of aim with the first shot.”
Theodore Roosevelt, The Wilderness Hunter, 1893
voted both--if it expands, fine. if not, also fine.
the recipient probably cares more than i do
as i've noticed about others--that they do not always do as i think they will nor often as they say they will.
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Everybody I know with a .380, cops, civilians, fellow gun shop employees, etc loads Gold Saber.
Winter? Is that those three cold days we get every year? I kind of remember that.
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I agree with both. There is a way to have the best of both worlds (expansion and penetration) and that is to load both in the mag. I load my Sig P238 with JHP first and the second round is FMJ and alternate from there. I shoot both JHP and FMJ and my Sig eats them both very well - never a problem.
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Well recently bought my taurus model 85, 38 +p special. 5-shot. In the "wheel" i have 3-jhp, and 2-fmj (alternating). My two speed loaders are set up same way.
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Only one view but alternating bullets smacks of uninformed indecisiveness.
“No possible rapidity of fire can atone for habitual carelessness of aim with the first shot.”
Theodore Roosevelt, The Wilderness Hunter, 1893
I prefer the buffalo bore hot loads in 90gr JHP flavor. I chronoed them at a 1090FPS average out of my p3at. That will provide enough penetration.
380 Auto +P Pistol & Handgun Ammunition
For those that do not like or are not comfortable JHP, I also chronoed the 100gr hardcast at a 1040fps average out of the same p3at
380 Auto +P Pistol & Handgun Ammunition
I consider my .380 a pocket, last resort weapon. I rarely carry it, unless I need to be ultra discreet. If I cannot get away, then it is best to stick it in the attackers face and start shooting.
I have Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 in my Beretta 84BB right now, I'm considering changing to the Buffalo Bore 80 grain lead less +P which according to their site out of a Browning DBA (basically a 84BB) is at 1230 ft/sec which is around 270 foot pounds of muzzle energy.
BUFFALO-BARNES 380 Auto +P Pistol and Handgun Ammo
Last edited by W9HDG; March 14th, 2012 at 02:13 PM. Reason: Added website link
I've shot a box or two of the BB HC stuff and IMO, it's about as good as it get for the .380. I really don't carry my .380's too much anymore, but when I do they're loaded with the BB stuff.. IMO those things will put the hurt on someone if need be. Not familiar with the "Santa Barbara flat nosed" stuff, but @ 1000 FPS it's gotta be a good one too.. Anyway, thanks for the info my friend..![]()
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I just tried out Barnes Vor-tex on a wet triple folded sleeping bag and I really liked the results
JHP in the summer / FMJ in the winter
This is how I voted, because of where you are on the longitude and latitude, as well as someone in Mi.
As long as the HP you select expands AND penetrates.
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I voted FMJ, but if I were carrying .380 I would probably alternate stack.
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