This what D.D.S. Roberts say's. I have to call BS because I have seen crony results and shootings off real people from 357 snubbies. A more honest statement might have said that for most shooters the 357 snub is not a good choice. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the ballistic properties because the 357 Magnum has almost 2 times the energy of the 38 special. Anytime you are into 'fight or flight mode" You are now the recipient of a massive dose of adrenaline - muzzle blast and recoil are no longer an issue.There is no reason to go with .357 mag in a J-frame, as the significantly larger muzzle blast and flash, and harsher recoil of the .357 Magnum does not result in substantially improved terminal performance compared to the more controllable .38 Special bullets when fired from 2” barrels."
He is also talking about the difference in jello, really, jello is a good tool if used in the proper context. You should compare new loads to what the effective loads do in jello. But what D.D.S. Roberts is doing is showing bullets to perform well in an artificial medium and "predicting" that it will work well in a person, without have ever studied or experienced trauma medicine or seeing firsthand gunshot wounds, or interviewing participants.
There are two sides to every coin.
Fackler was run away from the FBI, the IWBA is gone, they lost their funding, if they were relevant the IWBA would still be here, not just one guy. Eugene Wolberg is another one who created a "scientific study" with cherry picked bullets attempting to prove the effectiveness of the 147 grain 9mm. They smeared Evan Marshall's work and offered nothing in return.
We can keep beating this dead horse. We all have opinions, some are based on our perceptions and some are based on someone else's perception. What you have here is one group of people who have seen what happens on the street/field and what it can do in actual use and respect it. Then you have people that say, well it works in the lab so it must work in real life. It like the old line's, " Are you gonna believe your lying eyes or are you gonna believe me" or " It's not what it looks like".
Since police get in more shootings than armed citizens, and police departments investigate meticulously and report facts related to street shootings is there any data from real life shootings that support jello as a viable prediction to bullet performance?