This is a discussion on .45 ACP vs wild boar within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by WHEC724 There's a shoulder swimming in bbq sauce in the crock pot as I type this. tastes like chicken...
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Gotta tell ya, even as an avid hunter and gun guy, that video is a bloody mess and hard to watch. So, the .45acp isn't the best for a meth'd up hog, got it. Of course, against Deer, here is what a cheap WWB hollow point did, interesting. I figure humans are about in the middle of deer and hogs.
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I've taken deer with handguns but never the .45 ACP. I don't see why it wouldn't be a good choice for the whitetail deer around here. My brother-in-law has taken 4 deer and an auodad with a .45 ACP and reported good success when employing the cartridge.
“No possible rapidity of fire can atone for habitual carelessness of aim with the first shot.”
Theodore Roosevelt, The Wilderness Hunter, 1893
One thing many people don't realize is, wild animals, despite their size, are wild animals. They have the will to fight, much more than many humans. Dedicated humans can fight through just as many .45 rounds. Reasons you don't see it as much is because a human is usually smart enough to quit the attack and give up....
Not only do wild animals have a greater will to fight, I believe they are much more durable (physically), and less vulnerable to pain. A shot to the heart or lungs isn't going to instantly drop something, no matter what caliber. It will eventually stop them. The only guaranteed less than 1 second stop is CNS.
The video is rather disturbing. I hate seeing anything struggle for it's life. I don't know the story behind the video. Hunting with a measly .45 ACP is just stupid. Defending oneself with a .45 ACP is just fine. There is a difference. If I was in a field doing whatever it is I was doing and was approached by a bore, would I use my .45 to defend myself? Of course I would. The outcome maybe be the same as this video... but you're doing what you NEED to do to save yourself. If you go out with a .45 ACP with the sole purpose of hunting a bore, well, I just don't agree with that.
Now that I read in the video description that the bore was shot at 200 yards with a rifle, it just goes to show you what I meant about wild animals will to fight. Why didn't they just take a second shot with the rifle? I don't know. I'm not a hunter. I shot a squirrel once. I was at the range and they were running around on the dirt mound behind the targets. I actually felt bad.... even though I hate squirrels haha.
What really gets me about boar hunting is how little effect 'hydrostatic shock' has. When you watch it through gelatin, it looks devastating, but you cannot see any real effect of it when boar are hit. They run, immediately. If it's not a proper hit, that is.
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Knowing about the Bystander Effect actually prevents it.
RKM, I agree with your post 100%. I was fairly P.O when they showed the hog still flopping around. I'm an avid hunter and a video like that should not have been released for the public to see. Many hunter's wonder why there is a bunch anti- hunter's that would love to see an end to hunting. It's like what you said, we wasn't there and don't know the whole story. My brother and I bowhunt public land, atv's are not allowed unless you have a disability permit and then your only allowed on certain trailway's. We will walk up to 2 mile's one way to get away from everyone. There is big wild hog's and I carry a 1911 .45acp with hardcast bullet's incase one charge's us, it's not my first choice. I haven't figured out a good way yet to carry in my 7.5 inch Super Redhawk 44 mag as my CCW along with 40 pound's of gear.
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What I don't understand is why there was no follow up shot with his rifle, The description says that he shot the boar with his "hp" rifle ( whatever that may be). A second round of 458 socom or 300WM would most likey have dropped the sucker.
This vid is a good argument for getting a semi auto for boar hunting, I think.