This is a discussion on What 9mm Ammo Do You Carry? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; 147gr Golden Saber in my XD9sc, and 124gr Golden Saber in my DB9....
147gr Golden Saber in my XD9sc, and 124gr Golden Saber in my DB9.
In my sub compact 115 gr 124r gr JHP
In the compact 124gr JHP
In the full size 124 or 147 gr JHP
Do not much care for +P nor brand
Last edited by Smitty901; June 16th, 2012 at 09:25 AM.
I carry whatever 124gr HP we have in stock at the gunshop where ai work. Right now mostly 124gr Gold Saber in my Browning HP, Glock 19, and P7M8 carry guns. Wife has 115gr Gold Dot in her Glock 26. The dedicated HD Glock 17 is full of 115gr +P Cor Bon. Its the only gun I run +P in.
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124gr +P golden saber. Looking into Corbons as we speak.
What's the advantage of bonded bullets? If they make frangible bullets specifically for self defense than why do you need a bonded bullet for self defense?
A bonded bullet retains it's weight better. This leads to improved penetration and barrier penetration. If a bullet holds together every time, it's performance will be more consistent and reliable. Police agencies use bullets that can penetrate hard barriers like glass and car doors without losing their weight and penetration. If I'm using a high velocity handgun round for SD like a .357 Sig, I would probably use a bonded bullet to retain bullet weight.
A fragmenting bullet can shed it's jacket, lose it's core and have less consistent performance. Proponents of fragmenting bullets may like the minimal penetration or fragments of lead/copper left in the wound channel of their attacker. Unless you're planning on your attacker of dieing from an infection I don't see the point in that.
DO NOT use frangible rounds like Extreme Shock or Glaser Safety Slugs for self defense. They have inconsistent fragmentation and consistently poor performance and penetration. It's all fake marketing hype that sells these extremely expensive rounds.
I personally don't carry a bonded bullet, but the HSTs I carry hold together very well through barriers and gelatin tests. In tests I've seen, they have approximately 100% weight retention.
Here's a ballistic test of the 147gr WWB JHP. It is not good. Winchester 9mm 147 gr JHP (WWB) - YouTube
A ballistic test of what I carry: Federal HST 9mm +P 147 gr JHP Ammo test - YouTube
I carry Federal 124grain +p 9mm in my duty smith and wesson M&P 9c
147 gr Ranger T
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If you're going to carry one weapon, might as well carry two, because as the saying goes, "Two is one, and one is none."
"Liberals can decline or whine, but I will still carry and conceal mine." - Cold Warrior. Excellent quote good sir!