This is a discussion on A poll, which .380 ACP round would you go with? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by 357and40 Winchester Ranger t-series bonded is the same thing but half the price for twice the number of rounds. Doesn't have the ...
Round Nose FMJ
Flat Nose FMJ
Remington Golden Saber
Hornady Critical Defense
Speer Gold Dot
Winchester Ranger T
Well I really kind of had my heart set on the Flat nose FMJ, with the Hydra-Shok coming in a close second.
Bought a .380 today and all the fun store had in a good defensive round for the .380 IMO was either round nose FMJ or Hydra-Shok's.
So the box of Hydra-Shok's it is until a place an order online I can throw some flat noses in with.
I have been shooting some .380 ammo into stuff just to see how the ammo I can buy locally
works when compared to each other in the same material.
I just use water jugs, bundles of pine planks, and dry magazine bundles; all stuff I can carry on
a bicycle to the shooting location.
I shot WWB and Federal FMJ. In SD ammo I shot golden Saber, PDX1, and zombie [zombie is really the
same as critical defense]
The best penetration was from GS followed by zombie-----3" in wood & 15/16" in the magazines.
With the water jug, zombie made the biggest splash and most dramatic jug upset.
The FMJ was ho hum with the WWB the best.
So I voted for critical defense.
I'm not under the illusion that .380 is powerful, but, it is better than nothing.
Gold Dots and PDX1's. I had trouble getting the HCD to feed reliably in my LCP.
95 gr flat nose because it works.
may not sound cool but will get the job done at any range you would be using a SD weapon
I use the Gold Dots JHP, for expansion, because my .380 is my up close & personal, last resort, get off me personal deterrent.
Do not believe .380 is sufficient for use as an EDC. There are too many options available with a platform more or less the same size as a .380 firearm, but using 9mm or even .45ACP, to have to use a .380. At the very least I'd rather carry a 9mm and it wouldn't be [appreciably] larger than the Bersa .380, if at all.
Last edited by eagle00; June 30th, 2012 at 12:37 PM. Reason: added comment.
The Rohrbaugh R9 and Boberg XR9s are close in size, but heavier...and they both cost ~ $1,000. You can buy 3 LCPs for that...oh wait...I did!
Some folks will disdain the .380...whatever. I don't do caliber wars. Check out the sticky at the top of this subforum - once you get to .380/.38 Spl and above, there is really very little difference. What counts is where the bullet hits, and having enough penetration to reach the vitals.
The number of people killed because they didn't have "enough gun" is dwarfed by those who had none at all.
I carry Speer Gold Dots in my P3AT. If Federal ever comes out with the HST in .380 I'll switch over to those.
-It is a seriously scary thought that there are subsets of American society that think being intellectual is a BAD thing...
that is what I am carry right now critical defence
L W H Wgt
Bersa Thun .380 6.6” 1.30" 4.9” 20.0oz
Ruger LC9 6.0” 0.90” 4.5” 17.1oz
M&P Shield 6.1” 0.95” 4.6” 19.0oz
Obviously there are other factors one would consider in making their choice: cost, availability, comfort, perceived recoil, carry weight, etc. My point was that there are larger caliber handguns available which are more or less the same size.
To each their own. And the great thing about it all is that there are many options available!
Last edited by eagle00; June 30th, 2012 at 03:15 PM. Reason: spelling correction
I personally go with Hornady Critical Defense. My rational is that I want expansion, while sacraficing as little penetration and velocity as possible. I'm not basing this on any hard science, but logically I would assume that the critical defense is going to have the least amount of drag of all the defensive rounds, becuase it doesn't have an exposed cavity. However to be honest I don't just look at the type of round, but why I'm carrying a .380. It's small and lightweight! lol. So its a perfect "summer" gun when hot weather prohibits concealing a larger firearm. It stands to reason then that I'm not going to be engaging a subject that is wearing heavy clothing. So penetration is not much of a factor. That being said I've accepted a long time ago that the .380 is not the most proficient man stopper (you're not going to drop a guy with one round center of mass no matter what the loading.) So what it comes down to for me is: Carry what ever you are most accurate with, and practice rapid follow-up shots. :)