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How potent is Corbon's 9mm-115+P??

This is a discussion on How potent is Corbon's 9mm-115+P?? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I'd like to see the 80gr Barnes Double Tap 9mm out of a carbine and test velocity. That could be an interesting light game round....

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    I'd like to see the 80gr Barnes Double Tap 9mm out of a carbine and test velocity. That could be an interesting light game round.
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    Unfortunately, I had an AD with that exact round about 4 years ago...son accidentally knocked my Browning HP off the loading bench and off it went....it penetrated a plastic bin that I put empty shotgun shells in, passed through the sheetrock wall, and into the cinderblock wall in my backyard.....I have NO problem with what those things can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40Bob View Post
    The US Border Patrol used an identical load (9BPLE) for agents who carried 9mm's.
    9BPLE is a +p+ round @ 1300fps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesMorri View Post
    9BPLE is a +p+ round @ 1300fps.

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    Yes it is. 9mm's were authorized during the 80's and early 90's along with 357 Mag's and 45's ACP's. When we transitioned to the 40 S&W, everyone had to carry it.

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    Just saw a video where Massad Ayoob discussed HD/SD ammo. He preferred the Cor Bon 9mm 115 gr HP, but I don't recall the other particulars. He noted the cost was $25 per box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geobob View Post
    Just saw a video where Massad Ayoob discussed HD/SD ammo. He preferred the Cor Bon 9mm 115 gr HP, but I don't recall the other particulars. He noted the cost was $25 per box.
    Must be an old video. Mas no longer agrees on the 9mm Cor Bon.
    Mas says that the 9mm rounds proving to be the best stoppers are the 124/127 grn rounds running at 1250 fps or better.

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    Before I retired as an LEO I had a chance to test this round in a variety of materials. Expansion ranged from good to excellent, depending on if the hollow point clogged up. The muzzle energy generated is adequate enough to promote expansion. The US Border Patrol researched ballistics before the FBI's standards became the popular. The stated for reliable expansion you need to generate around 400 ftlbs of energy. This load will generate approximately 466 ftlbs. To put it into perspective, a 110 grain 357 Magnum factory load will generate 410 ftlbs of energy. So effectively this is equal to a 110 grain 357 factory load. Statistically the 110 grainers are about 90% effective. If you aren't into percentages, the US Border Patrol and the US Marshall service issued the 110 grain 357 Magnum for a few years and had great success with it. So if this load is roughly equal in velocity (approx 1350 fps) and produces a little more energy, you will be well served.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Bob View Post
    You have that wrong. It was not made up, Evan is an honorable man and protected his sources who may have gotten in trouble for sharing the information. It mostly coincides with what I saw in three decades on the street. Junk science, thats funny. Global Warming is junk science, M&S is the collection and analysis of information. Trusting your life to only shooting jello is applicable if you ever get attacked by the blob. The study you linked is interesting, in that, he tested 1 load for 38 and one for 357 magnum (which was a mid level load) and drew his conclusion from that for these calibers. He tested 16 loads for the 9mm, hmm.

    To the OP those 115 +P Corbons are duplicates of the old Illinois State Police load which set the standard. The US Border Patrol used an identical load (9BPLE) for agents who carried 9mm's when it was allowed. It worked VERY well. It was better that the 110 Grn 357 magnum load and almost as good ast the 125 grain 357 magnum load in actual shootings.

    Holy Thread Resurrection, Batman. But I had say you're spot on. I'd call the modern FBI protocol of 'penetration is everything!' junk science, they're still trying to cover their butt for Miami by blaming a single 9mm Silvertip round. Anyway, I agree on the Cor-Bon 115+P. Anything that replicates the old ISP load is worth considering...
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    I just saw a ballistic test on Corbon DPX and Barnes Tac-xpd and was very impressed. I have never heard much about these rounds but from the tests I saw Lucky Gunner and Ammo Quest perform both rounds functioned very well in 9mm short barrel. I use Gold Dot 124+p in my CC gun and 147 HST in both my HD guns. But after seeing these tests I would have no problems using or recommending either of these rounds. Has anyone here done any testing on either of these? If so what were your results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneaky View Post
    I have a Glock 19 and was considering buying a couple
    boxes of Corbon's 9mm- 115+P JHP for home defense!

    Does any shooter on Defensive Carry have any experience with this round? And how is this round's street record?
    This round is extremely powerful. It leaves a 4 inch barrel at 1350 fps
    When Even Marshall did his first 1 shot stop study he found that this round in actual shootings was able to stop a bad guy if he was hit in the torso with 1 shot 97 % of the time. The most recent of his statistics still have it as effective if the person is hit in the torso with 1 shot 90% of the time. It doesn't expand consistently when fired through 4 layers of denim in front of ballistic gelatin but it is the 9 mm round I use. It has a snappy recoil but a rubber gun sleeve tames that easily. Thanks for asking this great question about a great round.

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    Old thread I know but I have no issues with the Federal 9BPLE 115gr +P+, I hear it's one of the most effective 9mm rounds out there despite it being such a "basic" bullet. I would imagine the Corbon version would be good as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneaky View Post
    My thread explains itself!
    Not really. You asked how "potent". What does potent mean to you? Inches of penetration in ballistics gel? Velocity? Bad guys meeting their maker in the receiving end? What is potent?

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    It seems like the ability to penetrate to a depth consistent with the location of major organs, Heart/Spine. I know the spine is not an organ!

    That is why I like Ranger T in 147g, for my Glock 19. Recoil is manageable, and it is very accurate.

    The shooting of this round over quite a few years, and I have never had a misfire. Makes me confident on its ability to go bang when I press the trigger, and as my Glock 19 has never malfunctioned in any way shape or form, in those self same years, what else could you want?

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    I carry DPX in most of my carry pistols 380 up . If I haven't got DPX its still Corbon JHP if possible
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