Best sub-sonic 40 S&W ammo?

Best sub-sonic 40 S&W ammo?

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    Question Best sub-sonic 40 S&W ammo?

    I own a Glock 22 & 23 and am looking for a good defensive sub-sonic (less than 1000 fps to my understanding) ammunition. I have been looking at Federalís 180 grain HydraShok JHP because ballistic reports show it to have good penetration as well as expansion and a velocity of 969 fps. Any advise on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

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    Welcome tiny,
    Hydra shocks is what I use in .45 acp.

    should be OK in .40
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    I use the Winchester Ranger SXT 180 Grain in 40. I use it in my Glock 22, 23 and 27.

    Not sure what the difference is between a subsonic, like a 180 Grain, and a non-subsonic, like the 165 grain in both performance and recoil.

    Care to share your thoughts on why you are choosing subsonic instead of a faster round?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sojourner View Post
    I use the Winchester Ranger SXT 180 Grain in 40. I use it in my Glock 22, 23 and 27.

    Not sure what the difference is between a subsonic, like a 180 Grain, and a non-subsonic, like the 165 grain in both performance and recoil.

    Care to share your thoughts on why you are choosing subsonic instead of a faster round?
    I would second the Ranger SXT. I have shot the Politically Incorrect version of the SXT, the Black Talon, And the results were beautifully expanded bullets with deep penetration.

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    Care to share your thoughts on why you are choosing subsonic instead of a faster round?[/QUOTE]

    I will be using the round with a silencer

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    I like the 180 grain Ranger SXT.
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    .40 Caliber Ammo

    I just switched to Federal Bonded Hollowpoints, Full Jacket (180 Grains).....
    They are supossed to be doing away with the HydraShok rounds, which is what I used to carry..........
    They do 1000 FPS from a four inch barrel........

    They only place I could find them was
    http://www.streichers.com/

    They are what most Police Departments that use .40 caliber are switching to............

    I paid about 21 bucks for a box of fifty plus shipping...........Not bad for a good round..................

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    Federal list their 165gr hydrashock at 980fps.

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    180 gr. Federal Tactical Hydra-Shoks. This round is different from the standard 180 gr. Hydra-Shok and it moves at about 975 fps from my 4" Glock 23. I understand that this round is also being loaded with Gold Dot bullets instead of Hydra-Shoks and called the Federal Tactical Bonded.

    Side note... Federal and Speer are both owned by the same company. No surprise that they merged the technology from two of the best defensive rounds on the market in an attempt to gain a greater market share. Good idea, because I know I'm going to be switching!

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    180gr Ranger T (RA40T) and 180gr Federal HST are top choices, hands-down. Both are superior to hydrashok as they expand more robustly after passing through intermediate barriers.

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    Penetration & Expansion are both complemented by Higher Muzzle Speed & Energy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny9982 View Post
    I own a Glock 22 & 23 and am looking for a good defensive sub-sonic (less than 1000 fps to my understanding) ammunition. I have been looking at Federalís 180 grain HydraShok JHP because ballistic reports show it to have good penetration as well as expansion and a velocity of 969 fps. Any advise on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
    The 40 cal S&W cartridge was brought to us compliments of the FBI. Why, they wanted thier 9x19 Parabellums to have the stopping power of a .45acp. Thats the short version of it. So searching for sub-sonic ammunitions is kind of going in the wrong direction for that caliber. I have talked with folks in the ballistics community that tried this. Can do but....Most of the manufacturers will tell you that with the .40cal, they have to use stronger/tougher components to handle the violent recoil or "Snap" that the 40cals produce. So when using lower gr/powder they incurred elevated numbers of ejecting & mis-cycling if you will. I think Winchester would be worth looking into. I think they may have some low flash or low re-coil 40's in their PDX Defender line. But I do know they offer a wide range of choices. Let me know what you come up with. I am sidelined right now,so my EDC is a Glock 27, Texas is a concealed carry only state also. Since the move to Texas, I have been thinking about purchasing a single stack XDs 9mm. I think Nagels is running a special on them. I owned a XD 40cal service real nice gun, no problems at all. I got a real good deal on it from a dealer and ended up selling it to a friend for what I payed for it. He did not have a hand gun, so I helped him out.

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    I am shooting Winchester PDX1 ELITE S40SWPDB 165 GR,BJHP, hottest round out there in the 40 if you ask me. I do use Federal HST in the 180gr JHP..less muzzzle flip. P40HSTIS. I could never find the Rangers in North Carolina. I'm in Texas now, I will check around.

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    I was going to say something about shooting this thread the came back to life but then seen you were a new member. Welcome to the forum.
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    By the way you mentioned the Win pdx being the hottest round out there. Isnt the 165 gr and 155 r Gold dots hotter?

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    The question is do you like light and fast or slow and heavy.This subject been discussed in many different posts before just not 40 caliber.
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