Vacuum packing ammo??

Vacuum packing ammo??

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    Vacuum packing ammo??

    Got a new toy (a food saver vacuum unit) and been looking to use it any chance i get, that will wear out soon enough im sure. I store most of my ammo in ammo tins and all is inside my house and AC is on so i dont really have to worry about humity. But started thinking about hurricane season is here or a broken water pipe or something like that and was wondering if it would be worth it to seal it up. Ive bought some ammo bulk over the past 2 years and know i wont shoot it all up anytime soon.
    So it came to mind maybe using my new toy to seal up some ammo, has anyone ever used one of these for this purpose?
    Does anyone have a reason why i shouldn’t do it, something i haven’t thought of??


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    Yes, it is OK to vacuum seal it.
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    A great use for a food saver! We seem to seal anything BUT food with ours :)
    Might think about dropping a silica-gel packet in with each bag... a lot of larger aspirin bottles include a few small cylindrical desiccants that are ideal :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoppo View Post
    A great use for a food saver! We seem to seal anything BUT food with ours :)
    Might think about dropping a silica-gel packet in with each bag... a lot of larger aspirin bottles include a few small cylindrical desiccants that are ideal :)
    Agreed, if you have some silica gel packets laying around throw one in if you plan on storing it for a very long time.
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    We've done it and it works very well, laying the ammo flat and not just bulking it all up in a ball though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J0eyg86 View Post
    ...So it came to mind maybe using my new toy to seal up some ammo, has anyone ever used one of these for this purpose?
    Does anyone have a reason why i shouldn’t do it, something i haven’t thought of??
    Glad you brought this up. I was wondering along the same lines myself. I've seen some TulAmmo in the 'sardine can' packaging, though I don't know if it's actually vacuum-packed.

    One thought comes to mind, though, and maybe someone can shed some light on this. If the ammo (each individual round) is hermetically sealed, then vacuum-packing it wouldn't really accomplish much. If each round is not sealed, then I wonder if vacuum-packing the ammo might draw the air out of the cartridges, effectively 'leaning out the mixture' and resulting in reduced performance.

    I have no idea if this could or would really happen - just pondering. My inclination would be to seal up the ammo, but not draw much of a vacuum on it in the process.

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    Seal up your medical supplies. A bunch of gauze shrinks down like 75-80%. You can shrink a whole "blowout kit" into something that will fit in your back pocket.

    As for ammo, it won't hurt to vacuum pack it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilowatt3 View Post
    I have no idea if this could or would really happen - just pondering. My inclination would be to seal up the ammo, but not draw much of a vacuum on it in the process.

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    So not trying to hijack the thread but do alot of you store your ammo in your house? I read somewhere that fire fighters would not come inside your house during a fire if there was ammo stored inside. I've been storing mine out in a shed since then.
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    Every call I've ever been on or heard on the radio that involved a fire and ammo resulted in the command ordering "defensive operations". That means pulling out firefighters and keeping the neighbor's houses from catching fire while yours burns.

    Yes, we know there's no risk of explosion or of getting shot, but it happens every time I hear it on a fire.

    May I suggest residential sprinklers? You will save on your insurance, maybe even get a rebate or tax break or something to help pay for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilowatt3 View Post
    Glad you brought this up. I was wondering along the same lines myself. I've seen some TulAmmo in the 'sardine can' packaging, though I don't know if it's actually vacuum-packed.

    One thought comes to mind, though, and maybe someone can shed some light on this. If the ammo (each individual round) is hermetically sealed, then vacuum-packing it wouldn't really accomplish much. If each round is not sealed, then I wonder if vacuum-packing the ammo might draw the air out of the cartridges, effectively 'leaning out the mixture' and resulting in reduced performance.

    I have no idea if this could or would really happen - just pondering. My inclination would be to seal up the ammo, but not draw much of a vacuum on it in the process.

    Regards,
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    Leaning out would be less fuel and more oxygen.

    The minimal oxygen content will not be "sucked out" of the round.


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    Be careful if you suck all the oxygen out of the case the round will not fire
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    I store all my ammo in a bucket of water so it won't catch fire...
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    This is a joke, no?

    Unless you live under Niagara Falls (I mean directly under), waste of time. Best to control humidity levels.

    Now, if you plan on putting some extra stash in the dirt in the back 40, that might not be a bad idea.

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