FMJ or HP for .380 ACP??

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    I used to carry Corbon DPX loads in my KelTec 380, and sometimes alternate them as DPX, FMJ, DPX, FMJ, etc. A while back I read that LAPD had authorized the LCP 380 for off duty use and specified Hornady Critical Defense ammo for it. I concluded that LAPD though the CD ammo was good enough for its officers to trust their lives to, then I'd probably be ok as well. THe only difference is that I load mine with Zombie Max ammo instead of Critical Defence. Our local Bass Pro Shop was selling the Zombie Max ammo at a good price cheaper than the CD, so I picked up a few boxes for my P3AT. Looking at the specs on the box, it seems that the only difference between Critical Defense and Zombie Max is the color of the plug in the nose of the ammo.

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    Use the Buffalo Bore stuff in my Sig P238s, it's the 95gr JHP in the first two mags. Last mag holds the flat nosed FMJ stuff. Properly placed and the BG is toes up, or nose down, either way problem solved.
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    Summer carry for me is an LCP with Hornady Critical Defense.

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    LCP with Gold Dots, just got the P380 and will try the Buffalo Bore for feeding, otherwise I will be confident with the GD.
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    Hornady XTP, not the Critical Defense, give you good penetration with moderate expansion.
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    I like to alternate FMJ and HP 1 for 1 through my magazines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indykid View Post
    My wife now wants an ultra compact .380 for EDC (she doesn't like the recoil of subcompact, lightweight 9mm's) so I'm wondering if she should carry FMJ's or HP's in her carry piece. I know that 9mm is superior to .380 and that there are plenty of 9mm carry guns that don't recoil that much but she is a 110lb woman with wrists the size of my big toe so she really doesn't like the recoil and if she's uncomfortable with it than she won't want to shoot and even if she does she's going to have a flinch so lets strike out all of those discussions from this thread. What I would like to hear is what people who actually carry their .380's to respond and tell me if they use ball ammo or hollowpoints. Please leave out any second hand discussion about what you heard on the Outdoor Channel or what your cousin told you about .380's. I'd like first hand experience only please and thank you.

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    You had better have her try one of the super sub compacts first! The small guns like the Ruger LCP or the S&W Bodyguard 380 are NOT recoil free. I think they are both VERY snappy little guns and while I often carry the BG380 because it is SO easy to conceal, I do not enjoy trying to put 50 rds down range when I practice with it. The small size, narrow frame and significant recoil make it a bit uncomfortable to shoot repeatedly. Also, depending on hand size, some people have a tendency to cross their thumbs behind the beavertail when they hold it -- asking for slide bite.

    Having said that, I carry Speer Gold Dot JHP in my BG380. I've thought about using +P in the gun but honestly haven't tried it yet. I think it will make the recoil worse and I haven't seen JHP in +P on any local shelves.

    Be sure to have her try it out before you buy. There must be someone in your circle of friends who has one you could borrow.
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    Why do people post about snubbies/.40's..38's/357's ect when the OP wants to know about .380's? ...it just chaps my hide...thanks for letting me vent ...btw i like my fmj for my LCP...JMO...take it for whats it is worth
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    HP here also. Normally kept loaded with CorBon but I also like Gold Dots and Hydra Shoks.

    I can see "some" of the logic of carrying FMJ, but there's downsides that outweigh it. Over penetration may not be a concern for some people, but if I were to load up FMJ, it would only be when I went out walking or some place that isn't crowded. You may be justified to neutralize an attacker, but not the 12 year old girl that was standing behind him.

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    If your wife wants a .380 mouse gun (Ruger LCP or Kel-Tec P3AT), then ammo feed issues can happen. The only ammo I have ever had reliably feed in my little Kel-Tec is FMJ .380 ACP. Truncated or HP rounds always seem to get hung up on the feed ramp. You could always go with little wheel gun though.
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    My P3AT has buffalo bore 100 grain hard cast flat nose +P in it. I have shot about 30 rounds through it over the last year and it has always fed. It is NOT pleasant to shoot but it is not a range gun either.

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    I use JHP's in my Taurus 730. Mostly Federal, some Aguilar HP' s and Critical Defense. My LGS doesn't stock much in the way of .380, sad but true.

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    With the .380, I go with FMJs.
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    I have had great luck with the relatively heavy Gold Saber. The rounded jacket makes it feed well, but the fancy HP allows it to open up reliably. Plenty of momentum to cycle small slides on pocket guns, and it's accurate. Everybody I work with who carries a .380 BUG uses it, and so do a lot of local LEO agencies, even ones who don't use Gold Saber in duty ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g26az View Post
    I used to carry Corbon DPX loads in my KelTec 380, and sometimes alternate them as DPX, FMJ, DPX, FMJ, etc. A while back I read that LAPD had authorized the LCP 380 for off duty use and specified Hornady Critical Defense ammo for it. I concluded that LAPD though the CD ammo was good enough for its officers to trust their lives to, then I'd probably be ok as well. THe only difference is that I load mine with Zombie Max ammo instead of Critical Defence. Our local Bass Pro Shop was selling the Zombie Max ammo at a good price cheaper than the CD, so I picked up a few boxes for my P3AT. Looking at the specs on the box, it seems that the only difference between Critical Defense and Zombie Max is the color of the plug in the nose of the ammo.
    Actually, LAPD has switched to Speer Lawman 95 grain TMJ. I guess they decided penetration was more important in a .380 than the possibility of expansion. In a .380 auto, full expansion isn't guaranteed anyways due to low velocities.

    As a side note: Be really careful about carrying "Zombie Max" ammo in a defense weapon. If you ever, God forbid get into a self defense shooting, chances are you will be sued, and when you are, the attorneys are going to really play up the "Zombie" factor, and probably show the Zombie Max commercial at your trial, and do everything in their power to make you look bad. Do what you want, but I'm just speaking from what I have seen in the aftermath of a shooting.

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