Some 38+P and .357 SIG
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I've shot 125 gr. Gold Dots before and found them to have ...
September 11th, 2012 07:03 PM
Some 38+P and .357 SIG
Here are two defensive loads that might be of interest to you guys.
I've shot 125 gr. Gold Dots before and found them to have less recoil than the 158 grain loads,
and to be more accurate than 158s out of my guns as well.
Others might like the low recoil of the 110s like the excellent Remington Express JHP load,
or the exquisite Double Tap Barnes 110 gr. solid copper TAC-XP
However... some will still opt for the heavier JHPs in the 125 grain weight, if not the 158 gr. 38+P SCW FBI load
Given that I don't like much recoil and think that most of my guns, especially a Snub Nose, needs to be both
comfortable and controllable.
I just don't like 158 grain recoil out of Snubbie, or even something like a heavier Service Six where I would rather just have
a Magnum load like the 125 gr. Remington or Cor-Bon JHP. IF not the Remmy 158 JSP.
Double Tap states this 125 gr. Bonded Defense load uses flash suppressant powders and it has virtually no muzzle flash.
I have yet to verify this, but know that most modern ammo companies like SPEER, use such powders to minimize the
In keeping with the bonded bullet theme that we see in most modern designs these days.
Unlike something like a Cor-Bon or DT 125. grain .357 SIG fragmenting load or the infamous 125 gr. .357 magnum JHP.
The Gold Dot bullet used in the DT BONDED DEFENSE line of ammo, is a BONDED design that reduces the event of jacket separation.
This seems to offer both excellent tactical penetration, while delivering sufficient bullet expansion and resulting excellent stopping power.
They might seem a bit dated in comparison to the newer bullets on the market.
Yet, in the hands of police and state troopers, as well as armed citizens...Gold Dots have been working well for decades!
Advertised velocity for this DT load is:
Velocity: 1175fps / 4" Ruger GP-100
1.875" bbl S&W - 1100fps
This is pretty fast for any .38 Special bullet, with the DT 110 gr. TAC-XP going
1250fps / 4" Ruger GP-100
1.875" bbl S&W - 1125fps
Note that the same firm's 38 Special+P 158gr. SWC
has an advertised velocity of:
1000fps / 4" Ruger GP-100
1.875" bbl S&W - 900fps
Another, Bonded Defense offering that utilizes the Speer Gold Dot, is the 115 gr. 357 SIG B.D. JHP.
With an advertised velocity of:
3.5" barrel - 1494fps
4.5" barrel - 1612fps
This load is really smoking along for a 115.
My 80 gr. TAC-XPs are advertised at:
1725fps / 529 ft. lbs. 4.25" S&W M&P
1825fps Glock 35 5.25"
I find that those have less recoil and muzzle blast/flash than the 115 gr. Noslers,
but that just might be my mind playing tricks on me.
The Noslers seem to be louder than the 80 grain Barnes X bullets.
These 115s will be interesting to shoot!
I believe that all these loads are safe in guns like J fames and LCRs, ect, but like with all modern/high performancedefensive loads these days-only for very limited use to minimize wear on your gun(s).
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Thanks for looking!
September 11th, 2012 08:17 PM
A good bullet is a good bullet, regardless of how long it's been on the market. Gold Dots have proven themselves to be up there with the best.
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