This is a discussion on .25 ACP - The most useless round ever! within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by 10thmtn You might think that the micro .380s make the .25 obsolete, but that is just not the case. There are those ...
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For .25 and .32 acp's I suggest carrying FMJ to address the penetration issues
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In a close quarter confrontation a .25 or .32 is as useful as a knife unless one is an expert with knives, I'm not. May be better as it allows for two arms length offencive instead of real close in. However I doubt that I will ever find a sane person who would want me to shoot at them with a .25 or .32 at close quarters. Even an empty gun makes a decent club, unless of course it's made of plastic. ;)
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When Larome Foutane Jones is walking up to you with a knife, and you pull out your 25 PPK and put three 'caps in his ass', I doubt he will argue caliber.
A .... You see a gun
B...... You see a flash and hear bang
My guess is your attacker will think twice. At worst you put three 25s in his cranium. I would prefer a 25 over a 22 because of the 'dud' issue. is a 45 a better cal - Jee Whiz, I don't know. I took my grandmother to the shooting range and gave her my S&W 500, the recoil was a little rough but she liked it. But she prefers her 25 beretta.
A. You see a gun
B. You see a flash and hear bang
C. You continue to eat your friends face off anyway.
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Gun Control: Using both hands
I sort of think Rudy may have been on drugs. I would have put six 25s in his cranium. As a backup I would have a Japanese battle sword, a 4 mill volt tazer, a chainsaw, and would have ran like hell.
Forced to compensate for the .25's diminished "adequacy", I'd load up with the fastest 50 gr. FMJs that I could find and plan on dumping the entire magazine into the threat, and then if it still remains, using the pistol to beat a hole through his skull, circumstances permitting.
It is more expensive ,it is more reliable ignition than rimfire,it is a nice lil pkg to have in a leg holster or pocket backup,and better than nothing.Even issued to pilots both sides ww2 as had little room in some cockpits,considered last ditch resort.Russians executed prisoners with them shot to back of neck at base of skull.It is what it is a small caliber firearm.
I have a rather pristine titan 25 cal,sometimes carry it as well as dont carry spare mags,no way cocked and locked yet backup if I use all my 32 acp up,and or 22lr.For winter going with a 9x18 pa63.Backup still will be present even though its coming with two mags in either 22,25 or 32 as take little space up.And prior the 22lr or 32 were primary still will be in shorts and t shirt.
Hi Ray The Gyro Jet was an interesting configuration. It was stabilised by angled jets in the base which spun the projectile. It had far more energy than the hottest .......45 loading then in extence, with absolutely 'no recoil'. It was only available in RNFMJ, I believe that the individual rnds were made by hand basically, which accounts for the high price. I doubt that it could be called 'concealable' though.
Now about the lil .25, may I give an example where it is very desireable for close in self defense?
In Mexico it is virtualy impossible to receive a permit for a firearm. The law stipulates 20 years for possession of a .357 or a .45 Acp, or any ammunition for them. both are reserved exclusively for the military.
IF one could manage a permit, the largest pistol sizes are the .380 in a semi, .38 spec. in a revolver. Any firearm found in your possession without a valid permit, guarentees many years in the Mexican Hanoi Hilton.
There is a new modification of the law that for a 'foreigner', if the pistol is a.22, that the pistol will be confiscated and a fine of $1000 dollars will be applied and the possesor deported. No jail time. Soo many Americans here have resorted to using a .25 semi, since it is soo close to a .22, that an arresting officer will look the other way if the pistol is acompanied by a healty mordida, (bribe).not the required $1000.
Under these circumstances what would you do ? After all, a lil .25 looks decidely attractive, since it 'will do' an effective job up close say 10 - 15 ft in the neck region..
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How did we go from 25 acp to a gyro jet,which was expensive and had little fps or fpe at muzzle,most likly less than a 25 acp as a mini rocket.Admit wish I had bought one,just to resell for a wee bit more.But didnt have the cash then or the now price now.
Bet nasa bought a few for space guns.