9mm: Which has highest ft-lbs muzzle energy?

9mm: Which has highest ft-lbs muzzle energy?

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    Question 9mm: Which has highest ft-lbs muzzle energy?

    I'm beginning a selection of ammo for a CZ 75 P01 Compact 9mm semi-auto and would like to try a handful of the most-powerful hollow-point 9mm factory loads made. Suggestions?

    My goals: High power; general availability not an issue, as I'll order well ahead of time for my preferred carry stash; perfect reliability in my gun (which I'll have to determine, via testing).

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    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
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    Hello. In terms of foot-lbs of kinetic energy, I suspect that your Federal 115-gr. +P+ along with Corbon's 115-gr. JHP +P and perhaps Winchester Ranger 127-gr. +P+ will probably lead the pack.

    I am not personally aware (as in speaking with the shooter) of success stories with the Federal, though accounts that I've read have been most encouraging. I do know of 3 instances in which the Corbon 115-gr. JHP +P was used with very nice (and fatal) results. Likewise, Winchesters LE-only RA9TA 127-gr. +P+ has a "good reputation."

    In +P, but more sedately loaded as the round is loaded to meet/exceed FBI protocols, I've closely looked at Corbon's 115-gr. DPX +P and am mightily impressed with this round's boringly consistent expansion whether smacking bare gelatin or passing through various intermediate barriers. In my opinion, this one is going to be the one to beat. It penetrates more than the conventional 115-gr. JHP's and while +P, is not so fast at the Corbon 115-gr. JHP, which uses the aggressively-expanding Sierra Power Jacket Hollow Point.

    I've gotten very nice accuracy out of all three rounds when fired from Browning Hi Powers, CZ-75's, and an STI Trojan 9mm.

    If interested, here are some links that might be of use:

    http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/H...Winchester.htm

    The above article was written before DPX hit the market. I flat don't know which is the "better" of the two. Here is what I found with the DPX:

    http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/C...09mm%20115.htm

    Best.

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    Not sure if Steve Camp has gone thru all the 9mm top power offerings but - well worth taking a peek on his site - some very useful test and evaluation data there.

    http://www.highpowersandhandguns.com/

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    Try Speer Goldot 9mm+P 124 Grain
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    Dude - it's a pistol. Why go looking for extra ft/lbs of muzzle energy that you can't really use?

    High weight, low velocity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickpocket
    Dude - it's a pistol.
    Of course. Not all pistols are equal. Nor shooters. I can use it, reasonably effectively it turns out. Hence the question.

    BTW, I'm about as accurate with +P and +P+ hot factory and hand loads, on close-range tactical courses. Muzzle rise fools with timing, but accuracy is similar. Go figure. So, I know these hotter loads don't turn a decent mid- to large-sized 9mm pistol into an unusable beast, at least in the two guns I've used hotter loads in. A 4-5" barreled 9mm is manageable. Though, I'll grant that anything over 350 ft-lbs @ 1150ftp (or so) is hard to manage in a smaller, truly compact gun. No arguments there. Keep in mind: those other situations are not the focus of my question.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
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    Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
    Reason over Force: Why the Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
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    Foot pounds are not the entire answer...look for proper bullet design and appropriate velocity/expansion/penetration characteristics.

    Check Federal HST, gold dot +p and many other fine SD rounds...don't let ft pds be your only consideration.

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    www.doubletapammo.com

    511 ft-lbs with their 115gr Gold Dots if numbers are what counts for you.

    I carry their 124gr Gold Dots in my 9mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunting Coyotes View Post
    Foot pounds are not the entire answer...
    Gang: I understand ALL of this. However, this thread is about ft-lbs. Let's keep on track. Choices/options, for me to consider. I'll review in proper context, once I've got options. Thx.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
    Thoughts: Justifiable self defense (A.O.J.).
    Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
    Reason over Force: Why the Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
    NRA, SAF, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

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    I appreciate the contributions. Several to look at. Thanks.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
    Thoughts: Justifiable self defense (A.O.J.).
    Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
    Reason over Force: Why the Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
    NRA, SAF, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

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    I honestly don't know how much muzzle energy the ammo I use is, but it'll work. Winchester Ranger SXT's 127 grain +p

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