Frangible Ammunition for home defense?
This is a discussion on Frangible Ammunition for home defense? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by GlassWolf
To my understanding, there is no documented case on the books of a round ever going completely through one person, and ...
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October 26th, 2012 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
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To my understanding, there is no documented case on the books of a round ever going completely through one person, and killing a second person behind him with a handgun. That said, I would concentrate on shot placement and accuracy. The overwhelming majority of defensive encounters involving a handgun take place at a range of 3 to 7 yards, and happen within the span of about the same number of seconds according to active and former police officers to whom I've spoken. I'd stick with the most effective round you can carry, which for a handgun typically would be a sellf-defense or LE round like the Cor-Bon, Speer Gold Dot, HST, SXT, Ranger T-series and PDX1 hollow points.
Actually, there are many. Ayoob has referenced several of them...
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October 26th, 2012 04:49 PM
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October 26th, 2012 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
GlassWolf
To my understanding, there is no documented case on the books of a round ever going completely through one person, and killing a second person behind him with a handgun. That said, I would concentrate on shot placement and accuracy. The overwhelming majority of defensive encounters involving a handgun take place at a range of 3 to 7 yards, and happen within the span of about the same number of seconds according to active and former police officers to whom I've spoken. I'd stick with the most effective round you can carry, which for a handgun typically would be a sellf-defense or LE round like the Cor-Bon, Speer Gold Dot, HST, SXT, Ranger T-series and PDX1 hollow points.
NYPD has had a bunch of rounds pass through a suspect and injure/kill another. Mainly when they were still using the Winchester 9mm 115 gr FMJ.
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October 26th, 2012 06:02 PM
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The round in question is 9mm. And for the record, I agree with the consensus in this thread. I appreciate the input, thanks folks.
My personal choice for 9MM is Gold Dot 124 +P or 147. If you have over penetration concerns, then you can consider 124 or 115, but frankly I wouldn't.
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October 26th, 2012 06:56 PM
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I had also thought about frangible rounds but quickly discarded that idea. I see I'm not alone. Now it's Federal HST Bonded in .40 cal.
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October 26th, 2012 07:30 PM
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I use 158gr Hydroshocks in both my .357 S&W 65 or Ruger Speed Six. I am not concerned with over penetration
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October 26th, 2012 10:10 PM
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I said kill, not injure, and if I recall correctly, my statement regarding the lack of proof of this claim of people being killed by over-penetrating handgun rounds was actually from Massad, although that bit I may be off about. I've read so much stuff about this, it all starts to run together after a while.
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October 27th, 2012 06:45 PM
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I use Gold Dots in my 9mms and 45 and feel they are a good choice. There are a lot of quality SD loadings available. I was having a discussion with someone about the viability of using frangibles and wanted to substantiate my personal opinion. I want the best possible solution out there to protect myself and family. While stray rounds can and do sometimes affect innocents, I will take the best precautions I can....but I won't use frangibles. YMMV
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