Why 185 grain 45 ACP?

Why 185 grain 45 ACP?

This is a discussion on Why 185 grain 45 ACP? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I shoot 230 HST thru my Kimber. I have noticed alot of 185 grain choices in +P. What is the purpose or advantage of this ...

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    Why 185 grain 45 ACP?

    I shoot 230 HST thru my Kimber. I have noticed alot of 185 grain choices in +P. What is the purpose or advantage of this round?
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    A higher velocity can generate higher energy, since kinetic energy is a function of the velocity squared.

    However, your post prompted me to look, and I see no 185 grain +P rounds catalogued by Winchester, Remington, Federal, Hornady or Speer. What +P 185s are you aware of?
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    There are five kinds on Ammunition to go. Is more velosity preferable during the winter when people wear heavier clothing?
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    No - velocity/light weight is purely for more kinetic energy. Heavier bullets have more momentum, so they penetrate better. (In general. There are exceptions and extremes of course)

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    I don't mean to high jack the thread but maybe I can get an answer here.

    I was told to use a heavier bullet to raise the point of impact. I hand roll my own
    and was hitting low using 200 gr .45 Rainier plated bullets. I've recently loaded
    some 230 gr but have yet to range test them ( outdoor range and the weather
    has been really cold ).

    I don't get it ??? Just an old dog trying to learn a new trick.

    Thanks in advance ... J

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    Tnoutdoors9 on YouTube just posted an ammo test in 45acp, 185 grain, remmington. Best ammo testing channel on YouTube.
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    I have no idea why they exist, or would be chosen over the 230 grn loading.
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    Theory is as I understand it from what ive read is faster = more energy and more reliable expansion. Didnt write the stuff just what ive read. Seemed to make sense. If thats whats on the counter when I need ammo ill carry em in the 45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    I have no idea why they exist, or would be chosen over the 230 grn loading.
    Maybe just to be different. I have never found any reason to shoot anything but 230 in my .45's

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    While I would not like to get hit with either, It seems to me to defeat the purpose of carrying the 45 to go lighter.
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    I just wear my goose-down vest and I'm bulletproof. But it sure gets uncomfortable here in August.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    I have no idea why they exist, or would be chosen over the 230 grn loading.
    Same here. The 230 gr HSTs offer excellent expansion... in addition to being the biggest hunk of lead/copper one can reasonable deliver from the .45.

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    I'll stay with the 230gr FMJ...........

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    It's kind of like having a custom built stereo with the volume knob that goes up to 11.

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    I've tested the Remington 185 +p Golden Saber in denim covered wetpack out of full size 1911, Commander, and Officer's size. With all three guns, it expanded well but did not penetrate as well as any of 230JHPs tested (Rem 230GS, Fed 230 HS, Win 230JHP). Velocities averaged 1140fps, 1100fps and 1070fps respectively. Recoil/muzzle blast was much more than the 230s and I would not want to use them in any of my 1911s. They do make a good coyote load for my 45 Blackhawk convertable.

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