Barter the new currency?

Barter the new currency?

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    Barter the new currency?

    I was waiting in line today for some .40 ammo when I overheard an interesting sidebar. Some guys were trading ammo like baseball cards... "I've got three boxes of 380 I'd like to exchange for four boxes of 9mm." I'm seeing more people buy whatever they can, without owning any guns in that caliber, either for barter or speculation. Makes it hard for me buy what I need when everyone else is just going for the landgrab.


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    Ah the good ol' days of trading baseball cards. Rod Carew rookie for a box of good SD .45 rounds anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilyung View Post
    Barter the new currency?

    I was waiting in line today for some .40 ammo when I overheard an interesting sidebar. Some guys were trading ammo like baseball cards... "I've got three boxes of 380 I'd like to exchange for four boxes of 9mm."
    Sure, with many.

    Barter goes on all the time. Has been for long before coin existed, and it'll be around long after. I'm sure much of this was simply folks leveraging what they had a lot of for what they needed. Hard to claim a hoarder/gouger can be seen simply by virtue of him engaging in barter trade.
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    ...barter got real popular in the late 70s...then folks missing out on sales tax started hasslin'...it kind of died down...and/or went underground...it's an effective way to accomplish a lot...work for guns/ammo, etc...

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    Just a note, the IRS regards barter values as income. Mum's the word.
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    anytime there is a shortage of anything, barter becomes the means of getting what you need, just like in economic collapses (Zimbabwe, Argentina, Greece, Germany, etc.)...
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    I, with all due respect, don't believe barter can be considered...new.
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    My neighbor and I were discussing this very topic not long ago. In a rural area like ours, we decided that 22 LR ammo would be great for bartering.

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    ...that's one of the things that killed the movement...
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    Just a note, the IRS regards barter values as income. Mum's the word.

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    ...could you explain this, please?
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    I, with all due respect, don't believe barter can be considered...new.

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    I barter all the time. Need your gun barrel threaded? Need some custom gunwork? I'll take guns,ammo,knives, anything that appeals to me.
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    Im going to my lgs 2moro they do buy sell trade, im gona see if they will trade two boxes of federal 45 auto target rounds for two boxes 40 s&w target ammo. im thinking they will cause they can sell it and they don't have much 45 target ammo. if they don't then owell

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Just a note, the IRS regards barter values as income. Mum's the word.
    Strange, when by definition a barter is a trade for things deemed of equivalent value. It's hardly income.

    But then the IRS has got plenty of knickers to get twisted, when the smell of money's in the air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Strange, when by definition a barter is a trade for things deemed of equivalent value. It's hardly income.

    But then the IRS has got plenty of knickers to get twisted, when the smell of money's in the air.
    That's what I was thinking. I guess you'd have to claim barter income AND losses and make sure it balanced out on paper. Or like you said, mum's the word, after all there's no paper trail.

    Unfortunately, barter is only good for as long as you have stuff to trade, and it's desirable to the person who has what you need. My landlord buys used appliances - refrigerators, stoves, and window a/c units. Which is great, I trade him a refrigerator and a/c for rent one month, but next month I have either run out of spare appliances or eventually all his properties would be furnished and he wouldn't be interested in any more appliances. It may be great for occasionally aquiring things you otherwise couldn't, but I haven't found it useful for long term every day sustenance. This is the idea behind pawn shops really. I take them pretty much anything remotely valuable, and they give me cash that I can trade to various other people instead of just the one person interested in what I have. Last time I checked, I can't trade an extra refrigerator to the utility company to pay my bill and I kindof like electricity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snub44 View Post
    ...could you explain this, please?
    Sure, humans have been around a lot longer than coins & currency. It's only natural, when you had something I needed & I had something you needed, we would come to an agreement about how many beaver pelts were worth, uhhh, um...your daughter! Bartering isn't new, it's been around for thousands upon thousands of years. Millions maybe, as little fish "barter" cleaning big fish in exchange for food scraps & not being EATEN.
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