.380 Penetration: If you were a bad guy threatening a good guy...

.380 Penetration: If you were a bad guy threatening a good guy...

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    .380 Penetration: If you were a bad guy threatening a good guy...

    armed with a .380, would you be more afraid of jacketed hollow point defense ammo? Or round nose full metal jacketed ammo? And why?
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    Either. Why? It's gonna hurt.
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    When would I have seen the boolit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspector71 View Post
    Either. Why? It's gonna hurt.
    Which one is going to be more lethal? I've heard some people say hollow points out of a .380 don't get the penetration necessary. And fmj's will do a better job of breaking down an attacker. I'm just wondering what the consensus is around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutz View Post
    When would I have seen the boolit?
    In a silver bowl in the ER.
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    The 95 Gr flat nose rounds for 380 ,why simple 380 is not a power house it takes power to push a hollow point in deep. The 95 gr is just about the limit for the small round in a short barrel weapon and it will punch in. Here is a 380 95 flat nose insulated steel door 21 feet and it went though a 7/16 ply wood behind that. It will do the job if you do yours and hit the target.
    This test was done after someone after a few on this forum tried to tell me a 380 would not penetrate a human skull


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    I really dont want to get hit by either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty901 View Post
    The 95 Gr flat nose rounds for 380 ,why simple 380 is not a power house it takes power to push a hollow point in deep. The 95 gr is just about the limit for the small round in a short barrel weapon and it will punch in. Here is a 380 95 flat nose insulated steel door 21 feet and it went though a 7/16 ply wood behind that. It will do the job if you do yours and hit the target.
    This test was done after someone after a few on this forum tried to tell me a 380 would not penetrate a human skull


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    Both... why? I have no need for extra hole I wasnt born with, regardless of bullet type. Both will kill, both will hurt. Npot really seeing the point of this question, no offense intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorhead View Post
    Which one is going to be more lethal? I've heard some people say hollow points out of a .380 don't get the penetration necessary. And fmj's will do a better job of breaking down an attacker. I'm just wondering what the consensus is around here.
    Your original question was if I was a BG which would I be more afraid of. As far as lethal you have to factor in other tangibles; such as how good of a marksman you are and where your shot hits me. At that point and time, I could care less what your ammo is and it's penetration capability or even your shot placement capabilities. Bottom line either is going to cause much physical pain and I would like to ovoid that at all costs. Live to rob and plunder another day is my battle cry. There is a lot of test data available on the performance of .380 ammo that you may find helpful. See Smitty901 post.
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    Meh, I work out so either round will just bounce off me.


    Honestly, I think either would be acceptable. I understand both sides of the discussion but I think either would do the job. I load 95 gr flat nose but thinking about switching back to some JHP.
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    More lethal is like being sorta pregnant.

    Most efficient at incapacitation might be more to the point.

    FMJ for me. Thankfully there are other choices here in addition to the 380 ACP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorhead View Post
    armed with a .380, would you be more afraid of jacketed hollow point defense ammo? Or round nose full metal jacketed ammo? And why?
    How the deuce would I (the bad guy) know?

    Is the "good guy" going to announce "Man, you don't want me to shoot--I've got DeathShok TerrierWolf Platinum Talon Fang-Faces loaded!!!"

    I'm sorry, but I simply find the entire premise ludicrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuda66 View Post
    How the deuce would I (the bad guy) know?

    Is the "good guy" going to announce "Man, you don't want me to shoot--I've got DeathShok TerrierWolf Platinum Talon Fang-Faces loaded!!!"

    I'm sorry, but I simply find the entire premise ludicrous.
    You guys are making this more complicated than I intended. I was just looking for opinions on which bullet type would stop a bad guy more effectively.
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