The Buick of Truth
This is a discussion on The Buick of Truth within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; This is a VERY eye-opening set of experiments from the masters of shooting stuff at the box o' truth:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/thebuickotruth.htm
Interesting to see the effect ...
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November 17th, 2006 03:06 PM
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The Buick of Truth
This is a VERY eye-opening set of experiments from the masters of shooting stuff at the box o' truth:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/thebuickotruth.htm
Interesting to see the effect of vehicle structure on small arms rounds.
Might make you re-think your defensive plans a bit....
Matt
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November 17th, 2006 03:20 PM
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Cool. Always love to see more "experiments" by these guys.
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November 17th, 2006 03:32 PM
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very intersting. thanks for the post.
btw - for the pistol tests, I wouldn't expect jhp to do as well as ball ammo.
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November 17th, 2006 03:34 PM
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November 17th, 2006 03:57 PM
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I checked that out earlier today myself. The safety glass in those windshields is tough stuff. .22LR didn't penetrate at all!
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November 17th, 2006 04:10 PM
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You know the real reason they do this:
"Shooting at stuff is fun"

I like these guys also, good writeups and impressive shots (pictures). Also takes the "fun" out of shoot-em-up movies because you sit there rolling your eyes at the stupid stuff they try to pass off as "real".
Wayne
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November 17th, 2006 04:17 PM
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I don't believe their results.....does anyone have a car I can shoot? 
Very Good post. It is really good info on what is cover and what is concealment.
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November 17th, 2006 05:38 PM
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A very interesting read. Sure wish I could volunteer to help do some of their shooting!
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November 17th, 2006 06:11 PM
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Can I borrow your car?
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Interesting info...and that is something I have thought about...
Thanks...
ret
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November 18th, 2006 11:49 AM
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So what is the bottom line of the Buick O' Truth?
1. You do NOT want to be in the passenger compartment of a vehicle when someone opens up on it with a firearm.
As I was at Blackwater this week, my dentist was driving from his home with his wife to go to dinner when their jackass neighbor opened up on their vehicle with a firearm. His wife is dead and he is still in the intensive care unit on a vent at UVA.
If someone starts shooting at you while you are in a vehicle, get the hell out of there NOW. Hit the accelerator and if you have to run the ******* over, do it.
A car provides little in the way of cover, but it DOES give you the power to move fast which makes you harder to hit. Use that to your advantage.
A reality mention too!
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November 18th, 2006 12:05 PM
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LOL I have been shooting at strange crap for years , just never documented it .. anyone else remember " junkyard rat shoots " ?
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November 18th, 2006 01:07 PM
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WOW that was really interesting....what a good post
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November 18th, 2006 01:24 PM
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A simple, clear reality check for those with heads in the clouds. Good post. Good reminder about 'stopping power' and 'defensive cover'. Absolutely.
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November 18th, 2006 04:48 PM
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Very interesting! Thanks!
Yup, I'll stick with my Corbon DPX!
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November 19th, 2006 01:21 AM
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Reminds me of the episode of Mythbusters where one of the hosts wanted to prove the myth of the exploding gas tank. He took a PSG-1 to a Cadillac put 5 or 6 holes into a full gas tank. As you can guess, nothing happened. But it was interesting to watch.
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