Brand new to the ammo game.

Brand new to the ammo game.

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    Brand new to the ammo game.

    Just bought an XD-S 9mm... was lucky enough to buy a box of Blazer bullets to go with it. They are gray and not brass. Steel?

    Anyway, every Walmart I go into and Bass Pro are completely out of everything including .22 ammo. I am brand new into guns as of recently. From what I have read the shortage is mainly due to Hoarding? Politically, I can't see the underlying fear behind the hoarding ending anytime soon.

    So to my questions> what brand and type of ammo should I be looking for? What is ideal? What is a fair price for a box of 100?
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    That is the exact reason I went with a .40 instead of a 9mm... I knew that (atleast around here) .40 was more readily available than 9mm.. I'm not sure about 9mm but I bought a 100rds of Winchester FMJ 165gr in .40 cal for $39.99 at a LGS.. Then later the same day went to cheaper than dirt and saw the exact same ammo selling for $73-78 per 100rds.. Just be careful and do your research!

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    I go to gunbot.net or wikiarms.com to check prices. Fair prices, for me, are the ones in the low 30-cent range. But for plinking at the range I'll just buy 115 gr range ammo.

    The blazers you speak of are aluminum cased, not brass, so they cannot be reused. But if you do not reload it does not matter, it's fine for practicing and plinking.

    For basic practice it doesn't matter (to me) what I shoot - it's usually full metal jacket range ammo. I used to buy my own but now it's cheaper if I buy it at the range - about 14.50 a box.

    For carry in 9mm I carry Remington Golden Sabers 147 gr. But there are many fine SD rounds out there. Just make sure what you go with feeds in your gun reliably - this means shooting a box of it. IF you go to a range they should have a selection.

    As for a fair prices - well who knows right now. Is a price fair if you can never buy it because it's sold out? That's the rub.

    Things are getting better as of late - slowly, though. Personally I think the ammo supply will be sensitive until after next year's mid-term elections. I don't want to be political, but if the Reps gain seats then I think things will settle down. Personally I don't think there's a lot of faith in how strongly the current crop of R's and a few D's from the midwestern states will defend the 2A if pressed again if another tragedy happens - so I think there's a lot of "wait and see" for the mid terms.

    Until then, or until gun control clearly sinks as an agenda item, I expect sensitivity and modest hoarding....

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    Go here: GunBot find 223 5.56 AR-15 ammo in stock

    I have had good luck with cabelas, and SGA ammo. The blazer you bought today is probably AL cased, not steel. My glocks & m&ps like steel cased like wolf brand, and GENERALLY it is cheaper than brass. For practice, training, plinking, anyway. Not for everyday carry.

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    Any decent 9mm brass-cased FMJ or JHP ammo should do well in that gun. Possibly a shorter-barrel variant of ammo might suit you best, if you choose.

    But your question about where to find decent ammo selection and how to get a good price? Good luck, as that's the boat we're all in. Some regions have it, some don't. Seems to be improving lately, in many places. Though, some spots are still dry as a bone and expensive as Hades.

    One option: keep hunting via GunBot.net.
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    Go to my range and they might have a selection of ammo? ha ha. The sportsman's association of my little county is where I intend to shoot, looks like the movie set to Friday the 13th! There is a local gun store in Toledo that I bought the gun... it's a few miles drive, but at least they had the Blazers.

    Thanks for the help. Hopefully I can shoot for the first time tomorrow after work. I will shoot almost a full box and leave a few for two full mags. Don't have my CCW yet, so carry ammo is out for now.

    Thanks for the advice.

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    There are plenty of examples of ammo available on GunBroker.com as well. While the pricing might seem quite a bit high, to some, occasionally you can catch a lull in the "bidding wars" and find a decent batch for a more-fair price.
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    Try you local shooting range... most now seem to have ammo in the back for range use. Buy 2 boxes shoot one, take one home for another day.

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    Good to see a new gun owner here at DC! In a way you picked a bad time to get into guns with the ammo being a little hard to find but don't worry, things are improving. If you can't find anything local to you there's always the net. It will be a bit more expensive due to shipping but it may be worth it salt away a few rounds for an emergency/defensive purposes. The Blazer Aluminum stuff is actually pretty good in my experience but it's more range ammo than duty ammo.

    Fair pricing...well, that's a loaded question. Before the Newton shooting I was paying $20/100 of 115 FMJ ammo (eg. Winchester White Box). Now when the LGS gets it in the price is more like $30/100. If I buy 50 round boxes it's generally $17/50 for so I don't buy that. Of course, in the grand scheme of things it's doable in the short term. You can blast away at the range for awhile on a hundred rounds.

    I don't know anything about the pistol you bought but I know it has a strong following. I hope you enjoy it! Be safe and stick around DC, it's a great font of firearms wisdom!
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    I don't even try to buy ammo at LGS anymore. I buy practice ammo by the case, and carry ammo at enough to cover shipping cost.
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    I reload 9mm for $.14-$.15 per round.
    I'll buy 9mm for $.22-$.24 per round.
    If I was in a pinch, I'd pay as much as $.30 but that'd be rare and nothing more.
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    Welcome to Defensive Carry, and shooting in general! As stated above the pretty much standard practice round for the 9mm is a 115 grain full metal jacket cartridge, and a hollow point is geared toward defensive use. You are likely going to get a great deal of input from others one what they carry and such, so I will gear this post more toward the basics. I have posted some links below for your use, and they will help build you basic knowledge of handgun ammunition. The study of ballistics is pretty much a life long endeavor as it is an ever changing science. Once you have a good base knowledge you will likely find yourself studying "stopping power" and other aspects of handgun effectiveness (the last two links start you down that road). Good luck to you! I hope your handgun(s) serve you well, but I hope you never have to use them in a crisis.

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    I stopped at Bass Pro the other morning, shortly after they opened and they were putting 9 mm on the shelves. The salesman said it is usually gone before noon but he says they usually get 9 mm a couple of times a week. I have not seen any 9 mm at my local walmart but there is a line there almost every morning with the same people waiting to see what came in from the overnight shipments. The clerk says he has no idea what they will get. I have heard stories of the walmarters calling friends ahead of time to allow them to buy before it goes on the shelf. I just dont know if it is true or just walmart bashing. I have scored from gunbot and if you have the time you can set up your account with the alarm feature and leave it run in the background. I see 9 mm going for 27 to 30 cents per round almost every day.

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    I also found something that may be of interest to you. Attached below is a training video from the Bureau regarding the 1986 FBI Shootout in Miami (also known as the Miami Massacre). It prompted the now famous FBI Ballistic Research Project that deals with ammunition effectiveness. When I attended the first law enforcement courses on this it became the spring board for my study of ballistics and wound characteristics.

    1986 Miami Shootout (Part 1) FBI Training Video "Firefight" - YouTube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAUDnzDhQpc
    (The above link is for part 2)
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    Quote Originally Posted by b2187101 View Post
    They are gray and not brass. Steel?
    Aluminum case - not reloadable!


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