.44 speical Charter Arms Bulldog for carry.

.44 speical Charter Arms Bulldog for carry.

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    .44 speical Charter Arms Bulldog for carry.

    Just wondering what the best load for this infamous "Son of Sam" revolver is. I hear Gold Dots are good, but which one? I don't like to carry my 1911 in the summer..., so the Bulldog seems like a good alternative? Thanks in advance.


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    I don't have an answer for you, but welcome aboard.
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    No answer here either but if you were to post your question in the ammo section I'll bet someone will respond. I use Gold Dots in my M&P 40 & like them. I also use Federal Tactical HSTs & have some Hornady Critical Duty & they're good, too.
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    .44 Special Charter Arms Bulldog (which ammo?) for concealed carry.

    RE: .44 Special Charter Arms (2 1/2 " barrel) Bulldog for carry.

    Just wondering what the best load for this infamous "Son of Sam" revolver is. I hear that "Gold Dots" are good, but which ones? There seem to be several for .44 Special. I don't like to carry my 1911 much in the summer; it's a bit too heavy... So does the .44 caliber Bulldog seems like a good alternative for hot summer days to you guys? Thanks in advance. later, Hammerdog.

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    I generally shoot handloaded ammunition, a 245-250 grain lead semi-wadcutter over 7.0 grains of Unique but also keep a box or two of Federal 200 grain lead SWC hollowpoints on hand. I used to use the .44 Special as a bedside home defense gun until the revolver became too "collectible" to submit to law enforcement in the event of an incident.

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    A brother-in-law has a couple of the Charter Arms Bulldogs and this load is comfortable to shoot. It punches big, fat holes.
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    I believe that the GD's do not expand well fired from snubbies in 44 special. They just lose too much velocity, I believe. I am sure someone who has tested them will chime in.
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    I've never purchased Gold Dots in .44 Special (or anything else) for chronograph testing but you're likely right 40Bob. Any factory .44 Special load I've ever tried over the chronograph screens was mild and a short barrel renders it slower. The Federal 200 grain load clocked in the low 800 fps range from a .44 Special with a 5-inch barrel.

    800-825 fps with a 200 grain .44 Special bullet is fully adequate for most any encounter.
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    OP,
    You've chosen well, IMO. I have a stainless Bulldog Pug of recent manufacture and in the hot-shower/steam bath humidity we often get here, I don't worry about it. I still wipe it with a silicon-impregnated cloth when I take it off in the evening, but don't worry about it during the day.

    Like bmcgilvray, I'm a lead bullet fan for this one. I don't have my chronograph records at hand, so will just say that the vels I chrono'ed seemed to make Gold Dot expansion very iffy. I usually carry it with a 240g LSWC that I've "smushed" to a meplat the size of a freight train. Measured vel is about 680 fps, and it will smash and cut until the cows come home.

    My only problem is that I also have some 230g LWC's that I can load the same way--so what's a fellow to do? :-)

    If you don't handload or are uncomfortable using them for carry, grab up one of the Cowboy Action flatpoints at 700-ish and go to town!

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    If you are referring to the original 3" Bulldog manufactured back in the mid 70's thru the early 80`s shooting some of the modern-day SD ammo can be questionable. As it may "kaboom" your Bulldog.

    I'd suggest using the following as a guide-line:

    A) no Winchester or Remington round nose lead

    B) for lead stick with any of the "Cowboy" loads

    C) no CORBON, BB, or DT < too much pressure

    D) for self defense rounds > use any one of the Hornady, Speer, Winchester, or Remington SD rounds

    Give Charter Arms ah call and I'll bet they will backup this observation. Give them your Bulldog's SN and they can tell you when it left their building.

    Being of ".44 S&W/Special" caliber; if you do your job with round`placement . . . . . . IT WILL do its job for you too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    I generally shoot handloaded ammunition, a 245-250 grain lead semi-wadcutter over 7.0 grains of Unique but also keep a box or two of Federal 200 grain lead SWC hollowpoints on hand. I used to use the .44 Special as a bedside home defense gun until the revolver became too "collectible" to submit to law enforcement in the event of an incident.

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    A brother-in-law has a couple of the Charter Arms Bulldogs and this load is comfortable to shoot. It punches big, fat holes.
    Agreed...the Federal 200 grain SWC Hollowpoint is like the ole "FBI Load" (158gr LSWC HP+P) on steroids. It lets alot of cold air in warm blood out.

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    If I carried a revolver, this .44 would be it. Light and powerful. I have 2 and keep them with Glaser Blues for my house guns.
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    200 grain jacketed hollow point, from any mfgr. you can find. .44 Special.JPG
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerdog View Post
    Just wondering what the best load for this infamous "Son of Sam" revolver is. I hear Gold Dots are good, but which one? I don't like to carry my 1911 in the summer..., so the Bulldog seems like a good alternative? Thanks in advance.

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    my bedside Colt 45 is loaded with Buffalo Bore 250g full hardcast wadcutters. They are NOT hot loads and similar ballistics/bullet as the 44 special.

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    dear Hammerdog, i did give you some ammo advice in your 'new members' thread, but i was the only one i saw who did so.

    i think that zamboni's advice (#9, above) is better and much more complete than mine was. i recommend you follow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerdog View Post
    RE: .44 Special Charter Arms (2 1/2 " barrel) Bulldog for carry.

    Just wondering what the best load for this infamous "Son of Sam" revolver is. I hear that "Gold Dots" are good, but which ones? There seem to be several for .44 Special. I don't like to carry my 1911 much in the summer; it's a bit too heavy... So does the .44 caliber Bulldog seems like a good alternative for hot summer days to you guys? Thanks in advance. later, Hammerdog.
    Personally, I would recommend the Blazer 200 grain Gold Dots. That seems to be the general consensus regarding defensive ammo. And that's what I carry in mine.

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