Aguila IQ 9mm & 45acp and the Double Tap Defense derringer

This is a discussion on Aguila IQ 9mm & 45acp and the Double Tap Defense derringer within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I'm thinking these would be like kicking rounds being 68 & 117 grains respectively. does anyone have any experience shooting these? I have the ammo ...

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    Aguila IQ 9mm & 45acp and the Double Tap Defense derringer

    I'm thinking these would be like kicking rounds being 68 & 117 grains respectively. does anyone have any experience shooting these? I have the ammo and a gun in each caliber just thought I would check before I started using it.

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    I think there's a reason Aquila doesn't make them anymore.

    Personally, in that short of a barrel, is use the heaviest FMJ I could get.
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    As a fellow DT45 owner I know your motivation. HST 230 grain was indeed punishing. Perhaps just a once in my lifetime proposition. I'm leaning toward 185 grain loads, but still have some work to do on testing.

    I think the most difficult part of picking ammo will be which ones will drop free without having to poke them out with a cleaning rod.
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    Those rounds were tested and they are crap.
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    I have 200 rounds of the 9mm Aguila IQ and have shot maybe another 100 rounds , I ran a 5 or 6 rounds thru my crony and they are fast 1665 fps 4" barrel XD.
    I also shot some in water jugs and they break up into 4 pieces and just blow the first jug up like it was shot with a rifle.

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    If I were to limit myself to just two rounds of either .45 or 9mm (and I wouldn't) I would want the hardest hitting stuff I could find.

    That being said, I find that the heavier 230gr .45ACP loadings (for me) tend to feel like more of a push and less "snappy" than the 185gr .45ACP offerings.

    If you ever have to use your DoubleTap in a defensive situation take the extra second to aim very carefully. As we just saw in Houston, there may be more than one attacker and you absolutely must make every shot count.

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    thank you all for your thoughtfull replies. I imagine I will shoot this once and carry offten as a backup to my glock 32/31's

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    Quote Originally Posted by k_rasmussen View Post
    thank you all for your thoughtfull replies. I imagine I will shoot this once and carry offten as a backup to my glock 32/31's
    Well, that's your call; personally, anything I'm going to carry with the possibility of being used to save my neck will be shot a lot more than once.

    But, I may just be funny that way.

    YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ljutic View Post
    As a fellow DT45 owner I know your motivation. HST 230 grain was indeed punishing. Perhaps just a once in my lifetime proposition. I'm leaning toward 185 grain loads, but still have some work to do on testing.

    I think the most difficult part of picking ammo will be which ones will drop free without having to poke them out with a cleaning rod.
    I await your tests, but I have my doubts about many JHPs expanding when fired from such short barrels. Then there is the issue of penetration.

    You are probably better off with FMJ in this gun.

    You are probably a whole lot better off with almost any other gun. Like a 7 shot .380 or 5 shot .38 or...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    I await your tests, but I have my doubts about many JHPs expanding when fired from such short barrels. Then there is the issue of penetration.

    You are probably better off with FMJ in this gun.

    You are probably a whole lot better off with almost any other gun. Like a 7 shot .380 or 5 shot .38 or...
    Actually, HST 230 Grain standard pressure did well. 2 bare gel shots expanded and the 4 layer heavy denim did not.
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    I don't know how they would perform in a short barrel, but I fired one round of .45 into a bucket of wet newspaper using a 1911 and it blasted bits ofnewsprint all over the walls, cracked the bucket, and steam was visible from the bucket after the shot . It was the most impresive damage I bad ever seen inflicted on newspaper, but what it means in a human target I have no idea.
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    I have never shot those rounds, but was offered a chance to fire a doubletap .45, but after seeing multiple people fire it twice and hand it off, i politely declined. If I had such a hell on wheels gun, I would prob be inclined to work up a less punishing hand load for it using lead bullets as opposed to shooting the full strength stuff. For me it would be a in your face gun so maximum velocity is not critical, and the softer lead will expand more readily at lower velocities than a JHP, or at least I would assume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhouse 15 View Post
    I don't know how they would perform in a short barrel, but I fired one round of .45 into a bucket of wet newspaper using a 1911 and it blasted bits ofnewsprint all over the walls, cracked the bucket, and steam was visible from the bucket after the shot . It was the most impresive damage I bad ever seen inflicted on newspaper, but what it means in a human target I have no idea.
    I will keep this post in mind if my rain-filled paper recycling bin ever gives me a threatening look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ljutic View Post
    Actually, HST 230 Grain standard pressure did well. 2 bare gel shots expanded and the 4 layer heavy denim did not.
    Read your updated review on your blog...ouch! When your hand stops hurting, get yourself a LCR or a J frame and call it a day.

    Hope they refund your money, too.

    The idea that the second primer getting hit when firing the first shot is "normal" is just insanity to me!
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