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    need carry ammo advice

    im planning on purchasing some federal hst in 45 acp and i need a little advice before i do.
    back in 2011, i bought 2 boxes of winchester rangers for a springfield xdm 45 and i had nothing but trouble with them feeding, and now that experience has got me gun shy[pun intended] i am wanting your advice if i should buy 1 box of hst's or 2 and risk having more ammo that i cannot use. what would you do? thanks
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    Guns are like women, what one likes another will not. I've seen one gun hanle a certain brand and weight of ammo with not issue while another identical model will have issues with it. You always test your ammo in the gun you mean to use it in. Fire a couple of mags worth to make sure it will feed properly.
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    actually i was planning to run about 200 rds thru my gun to function check it. i just dont want to buy more ammo than i can shoot if my gun doesnt like it. i think ill do the smart thing and buy 1 box at first and hope all goes well
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    Good plan. Fire a box if all goes well keep testing. My XD service .40 doens't have any issues with Ranger Ts but some XD pistols in .45 have trouble with some bullet shapes especially SWC shapes.

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    Buy one box like you said. The most that will cost you is a trip back to the LGS for more ammo. I agree, fire a couple hundred rounds of you pd ammo.
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    Any ammo can give a gun a problem, so I would recommend getting some snap caps and have someone else randomly load them in your mags. This is a good practice drill for a malfunction during a real situation. Just in case.

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    Here's a wise guys view...

    Buy a pile of that ammo and test it in your gun. If you run into problems, keep that ammo but buy other ammo to find what the gun likes. THEN, buy another gun in the same caliber to see if the original problem ammo works in the 2nd gun. It's a good way to build your arsenal from an illogical approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacticalhippie View Post
    im planning on purchasing some federal hst in 45 acp and i need a little advice before i do.
    back in 2011, i bought 2 boxes of winchester rangers for a springfield xdm 45 and i had nothing but trouble with them feeding, and now that experience has got me gun shy[pun intended] i am wanting your advice if i should buy 1 box of hst's or 2 and risk having more ammo that i cannot use. what would you do? thanks
    Is your XDm working OK with all other ammo you've tried? Personally, I'd have it checked out pretty carefully.

    Rangers are good ammo. I've never had any problem with them in any of my .45's or 9mm's. If you were having problems with TUL, or Monarch, or "Joe's Discount Ammo Company", it might be a different story, but a good quality full-sized pistol (which the XDm is) should have no problems with good quality ammo! FWIW
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    Like many have said already, some guns will simply not function properly with certain kinds of ammo. Even some that have had stellar reviews in the past for reliability I myself have been able to turn them into non-functioning hunks of metal with some of the major ammo makers products. The advice you have received on running a few hundred rounds of your carry munitions through you EDC is the most efficient way of determining reliable feeding. You can also help narrow things down a bit by leaning toward bullet designs that have a profile closer to that of a FMJ round. In your specific question of buying more that 1 box at a time, I would likely not do so since you may invest in a round that you can not use. Instead, I would review the choices you have made based upon the profile of the round and pick a "Top 2" or even 3. Then perform your own testing for reliability and accuracy. You may find that your choices all feed reliably but some may be more accurate in your particular pistol than others. Just a thought.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilowatt3 View Post
    Is your XDm working OK with all other ammo you've tried? Personally, I'd have it checked out pretty carefully.

    Rangers are good ammo. I've never had any problem with them in any of my .45's or 9mm's. If you were having problems with TUL, or Monarch, or "Joe's Discount Ammo Company", it might be a different story, but a good quality full-sized pistol (which the XDm is) should have no problems with good quality ammo! FWIW
    sorry, i should have mentioned i no longer own that hunk of plastic junk. it was a very problematical gun from the get-go. the only reliably feeding ammo was remington umc 230 gr. jhp's. i tried wwb jhp's and the freaking magazines kept falling out[no idea why] and with the rangers i couldnt make it through 1 magazine without at least 3 ftf's. on top of that i replaced the trigger with a prp ultimate match and had the local smith install it and he royally screwed the trigger up, the trigger wouldnt reset. i took it to another smith and they were able to get it running for about 2 months then it went back to not resetting. long story short, i wasted alot of money in ammo and i paid $140 for the trigger and about the same amount of money in smithing fees to get it to run right, and it still didnt work like it was supposed to. i cut my losses and sold the gun and didnt look back. my para expert,on the other hand,is the exact opposite. it eats up everything ive put through it like a ravenous wolf.she just needs a trigger job[badly i might add] and night sights and better grips and she will be ready to protect my life. i have alot of confidence in this gun,however, as i mentioned earlier, i got burned with good ammo and i dont want to make that mistake again

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    Well then, obviously the problem was not the ammo. Your gun was a lemon.
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    One reason Glocks are so popular is that they will run virtually EVERY brand/type ammo. Most guns have some type or brand of ammo that they simply dont like/wont run.

    I make sure to find out right off the bat which ammo my guns will run. Btw, in 40 cal, I had the most problems with win white box. It always went "bang", and didnt do TOO badly, but my SIG & Steyr had problems with it.

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    Glocks are so forgiving because the unsupported chamber allow it to feed just about everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agalindo View Post
    Good plan. Fire a box if all goes well keep testing. My XD service .40 doens't have any issues with Ranger Ts but some XD pistols in .45 have trouble with some bullet shapes especially SWC shapes.
    My XD 40 4" Service model eats anything. It's like a billygoat on the range. Nevertheless, I only will load it with Winchester PDX-1 or Speer Gold Dots for my carry loads because I've tested that ammo with at least 250 hiccup-free rounds through it.
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    I'm a big fan of Fed HST all of my 1911's eat them up with no problems. Run a couple of boxes through you XDm to see how they do.
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