.380 Ultimate Defense

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    .380 Ultimate Defense

    Anyone have any experience with Remington Ultimate Defense .380 in a Keltec P3AT.

    Thanks in advance. Fred
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    Hi Rf,

    Here is a video of Tnoutdoors9 doing a review of that particular load. Hope this helps.

    AMMO test: .380 ACP Remington Golden Saber 102 gr JHP - YouTube

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    It is the Golden Saber in new packaging. Nothing new about the load.
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    .380 and ultimate defense do not belong in the same sentence.
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    Use fmj in .380
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    As Mike stated, the 102gr is 'heavy for caliber' and obviously failed.
    My wife loves her .380 Kel Tec 1st Gen so I got her the Hornady Critical Defense 90 gr rounds with 'thin jacket' for short bbl expansion.

    They do their job well. Much better than the Gold Dot .380s which fall short, but their 9mm +P short bbl 124 gr 9mm & .45 acp 200gr +P short bbl are great.

    Hornady Critical Defense .380 ACP 90 gr Ammo test - YouTube
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    .380 Ultimate Defense

    Not an isolated test either. The critical defense load seems to be an adequate round for Defensive use. Out of a short barrel as well

    http://youtu.be/O15fRBdo-38


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    .380 Ultimate Defense

    When I have to carry my P238 .380 for SD it always has the Buffalo Bore +P 90 grain or Buffalo Barnes +P 80 grain loaded. I have some Underwood +P loaded with the 102 grain Golden Saber that I am waiting to see tested. I don't like the Hornady ammo because it is not designed to expand as much as other JHP bullets and that is how it gets the penetration. It is a low powered ammo and a lot of people really like it but I want the best of both worlds if I am going to use a JHP in a .380. Penetration is easy to get without expansion. Some .380 FMJ will penetrate over 30 inches.
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    Here you go

    http://youtu.be/nSAecgxVmno


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    That was not the +P used in the video test. The Golden Saber works great when it has enough velocity from what I have seen in other caliber testing. I am thinking the +P .380 version might work since faster = more expansion normally.

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    After doing some research, my wife and I settled on Hornady Critical Defense 90gr for both of our .380's. For our other caliber handguns, we keep on-hand Golden Sabers, Gold Dots and Critical Duty as well as Critical Defense for SD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40Bob View Post
    .380 and ultimate defense do not belong in the same sentence.
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    .380 Ultimate Defense

    If you don't like .380s don't get one. No one claims that they are equal to larger calibers.

    They are adequate however.

    People just want to know what the ultimate .380 SD round tests out to be.

    I will take my little .380 in my pocket 100% of the time I can carry, vs the 42 ounce .45 1911 sitting in a safe any day.




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