Help - .223 Wylde?

Help - .223 Wylde?

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    Help - .223 Wylde?

    Can you anyone help with the pro's and cons of the .223 Wylde?


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    The .223 chambering is slightly tighter than a 5.56. When you see a barrel that's both, it's basically designed for the 5.56, which will allow you to shoot both, but you lose the advantages of the tighter chambering of the .223. The .223 wylde is basically a 5.56 with a tighter chambering more like the .223. You can still shoot both out of it and it should provide a little better accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX expat View Post
    The .223 chambering is slightly tighter than a 5.56. When you see a barrel that's both, it's basically designed for the 5.56, which will allow you to shoot both, but you lose the advantages of the tighter chambering of the .223. The .223 wylde is basically a 5.56 with a tighter chambering more like the .223. You can still shoot both out of it and it should provide a little better accuracy.
    What he said^^^. Primary Weapons Systems, which is based in Boise, uses .223 Wylde on all their .223/5.56 barrels. Works pretty good.

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    its not "tighter".. 223 --> 223wylde--->556

    223wylde has a throat lead in angle that is between the 2, this allows the accuracy of a 223 with the chamber pressure tolerance of a 556

    it will shoot most any ammo well, similar to the SAM-R spec chamber

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    So shooting cheap .223's would negate the gains of the Wylde chamber?

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    Negate? Don't know that it would "negate" anything, but it would allow for shooting .223 or 5.56.
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    Let me restate. Assuming a regular .223 fired from a 5.56 chamber would not be as accurate as a .223 Wylde. Would a regular .223 fired from a .223 Wylde chamber be less accurate than a regular .223 fired from a 5.56 chamber?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCXDm9 View Post
    ...Would a regular .223 fired from a .223 Wylde chamber be less accurate than a regular .223 fired from a 5.56 chamber?
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    So it seems the Wylde is all around a better chamber then the reg 5.56? What are the draw backs? Or is thw Wylde just plane better?

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    A lot of the "accuracy" in any of them depends on barrel twist rate and bullet length. The chamber doesn't care so much. The heavier (thus longer) 5.56 bullets require a slower spin where the typical .223 sporter has a faster twist rate better suited for lighter (thus shorter) bullets The 5.56 barrel throats are longer to allow for the longer bullets. A 5.56 round in the .223 can jam the bullet into the threads and cause a pressure spike that will exceed even 5.56 limits--not a good idea.
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    Actually I'm not sure it would matter. "Cheap" ammunition is probably going to have as much, or more, effect on accuracy than the Wylde chambering.

    I guess it would probably help if we had some understanding on why you were asking, or the rifle's purpose, or anything to help understand why the interest.

    I can't think of any reasons why it would hurt you to have a rifle .223 Wylde chambered, but depending on the intended purpose, it may not matter at all. For example, if you just happen to have found a good deal on a Wylde chambered rifle, then I don't really see any reason not to get one. If it's more money than your average rifle price for a similarly built .223/5.56 then it may or may not be worth the money. If you plan on running Herter's or Wolf 55. gr cheap-as-you-can-buy ammunition for range fun, then I'd say it's probably not worth any increase in price. If you're looking for longer distance accuracy with match grade ammunition, then yeah, it's probably worth it.

    I don't own one so I can't really speak on any potential downsides to the Wylde chambering. Since my scoped AR is capable of MOA or better accuracy, I've never had any reason to look at anything else.
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    Thank you for the help.

    From time to time, I find Wylde barrels when others are not available.

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