Newbie ammo question.

Newbie ammo question.

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    Newbie ammo question.

    I'm still new to shooting and am looking for some clarification on something. I picked up a couple of boxes of .45acp Federal FMJ at Walmart today and noticed a warning about not using it with ported or compensated barrels. What is it that makes the difference? Doesn't matter for anything I own, just curious.
    I'm not saying we should kill all the stupid people. I'm saying remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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    That's an odd one - never saw that warning on any commercial ammo I've ever bought. Porting and compensators are used to diminish recoil and muzzle flip, and they are more effective on rounds loaded to higher pressures (like .38 Super and just about all the magnum loadings) than on the .45 ACP. The only thing that comes to mind is that ports and comps allow burnt and burning gases to exit the gun at places other then the muzzle, typically 90 degrees to the muzzle. Federal's lawyers may be concerned about bystanders on either side of the gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    That's an odd one - never saw that warning on any commercial ammo I've ever bought. Porting and compensators are used to diminish recoil and muzzle flip, and they are more effective on rounds loaded to higher pressures (like .38 Super and just about all the magnum loadings) than on the .45 ACP. The only thing that comes to mind is that ports and comps allow burnt and burning gases to exit the gun at places other then the muzzle, typically 90 degrees to the muzzle. Federal's lawyers may be concerned about bystanders on either side of the gun.
    Their either concerned about bystanders or someone was injured that way and sued Federal for not placing the warning on the box.
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    Agree with gasmitty. Sounds like they are trying to avoid a lawsuit that is unlikely to happen anyway.

    Never heard of ammo that was "compensator approved."

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    This is a real warning label:

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    Could it be loaded with a slower burning powder or something?
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    I've never noticed the warning either on any other brand/style. Saw the same thing on a box of Federal 9mm I bought a couple weeks ago. When I get back to the house I'll check the Winchester and Remington boxes I have.
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    Perhaps it might not cycle a semi auto?
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    I would guess that the bullets have a cheaper thinner plating and Federal's lawyers are afraid of it chipping off and hitting someone.
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    The Champion line of ammo is Federal's less expensive range and training ammo.
    They use a cheaper, thinly plated bullet instead of a conventional jacketed bullet.

    The thin plating will strip off in a ported barrel or comp and injure someone with a flying bullet fragment. (aka, garbage ammo)
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    I wouldn't want a ported barrel on a pistol anyway.
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    That may be true about the plating stripping off in a ported barrel. However, plated bullets are not junk ammo. I reload with Berry's and Rainier's all the time. I don't shoot them in a ported barrel though.

    Quote Originally Posted by patri0t View Post
    The Champion line of ammo is Federal's less expensive range and training ammo.
    They use a cheaper, thinly plated bullet instead of a conventional jacketed bullet.

    The thin plating will strip off in a ported barrel or comp and injure someone with a flying bullet fragment. (aka, garbage ammo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Perhaps it might not cycle a semi auto?
    Doesn't seem to be an issue. Shot 100 rounds of it in 9mm last weekend.


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    Here's the warning. Isn't on my WWB, Remington UMC, or Hornady stuff.


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    As others have said, it's from the plated bullets that Champion uses.

    The other bullets are jacketed.
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