9mm Defense Loads 127 gr vs 135 gr

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    9mm Defense Loads 127 gr vs 135 gr

    I've searched several times to no avail. Does anyone have links that compare the 9mm Winchester Ranger 127 gr +p+ JHP to Hornady 135 gr Critical Duty JHP? As much as I like to consider myself a 45 ACP/10mm fan, the older I get (64), the harder it is to control the larger rounds on multiple follow-up shots. My accuracy has not suffered, but the speed is going the way of age.
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    Check out "TNOUTDOORS9" on You tube. He does a lot of 9mm ammo test. I have seen his Critical Duty gelatin test, but I am not sure he has done the 127g Ranger. But, you can search his videos to find out.
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    txron is correct, Tnoutdoors9 did the tests for the Critical Duty, he also did the Winchester 127+P+.

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    Depending on the length of your gun's barrel, if it's around 3 inches, you may want to consider Critical Defense.

    ShootingTheBull is starting to test 9mm for short barrels.

    Ammo Quest 9mm: Hornady Critical Defense tested in ballistic gelatin - YouTube

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    Seems to me you're picking the fly scat out of the pepper when deciding between those two loads. IMHO, pro basketball players care more about practicing skills than if the ball is a Rawlings or a Wilson.
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    Why just those two? Speer GDHP 124gr+P has always been my go-to for carry in 9mm in all barrel lengths. IMO, closest thing to shooting 147gr FMJ for practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 12 gauge View Post
    I've searched several times to no avail. Does anyone have links that compare the 9mm Winchester Ranger 127 gr +p+ JHP to Hornady 135 gr Critical Duty JHP? As much as I like to consider myself a 45 ACP/10mm fan, the older I get (64), the harder it is to control the larger rounds on multiple follow-up shots. My accuracy has not suffered, but the speed is going the way of age.
    127gr +p+ is going to be pretty snappy and beat the hell out of a gun. The Critical Duty in 135gr+p isn't going to beat on you or the gun as much. The Critical Duty is going to penetrate more. In most test I've seen they get close to 16". According to the Winchester comparison chart the 127gr+p+ barely crosses 12". The difference is about .15" of expansion in the Winchester's favor.

    Personally, I carry the Hornady Critical Duty 135gr+p in my Glock 26. It was easy to find for decent prices and in abundance during the panic. I have used the Winchester Ranger Bonded 147gr in the past. I found the quality control and quality of the ammo suspect. I had several overcharged rounds that caused magazine and feeding issues in multiple guns.

    If you really want to use Winchester "T" series I would suggest the 124gr+p. It expands the same as the +p+ and gets an extra 1.7" of penetration according to Winchester.
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    Ballistics 101 | All the ballistic charts. Finally, in one place

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkent View Post
    Depending on the length of your gun's barrel, if it's around 3 inches, you may want to consider Critical Defense.

    ShootingTheBull is starting to test 9mm for short barrels.

    Ammo Quest 9mm: Hornady Critical Defense tested in ballistic gelatin - YouTube

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    The Critical Duty is some good ammo. The Critical Defense didn't fare quite as well in TnOutdoors9 tests. Personally, I wouldn't be afraid to use either one. However, if I had a 3" barrel, the Speer Gold Dot short barrel would be my choice.
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