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    what rifle cartridge most similar to slug?

    what rifle cartridge or caliber has similar range and ballistics to a rifled 12 or 20 gauge slug?


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    .45-70.

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    muzzle loader
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    yikes. the ones i see as modern and available and most likely to closely reprocduce?
    .50 B&M Alaskan?
    .444 marlin?
    .45-70 gov't (heavy loads only, they make some weak loads for this to support OLD guns)

    i think any of the uber large belted mags *Might* actually have MORE energy, have to chart it to be sure, but anything starting from .358 Norma Mag has got to be approaching the energy of a standard 1 oz. slug, bullets will be lighter, but faster so more energetic and flatter shooting, not sure where the "actual line" on muzzle energy converges, but any of these could be as much or more.
    .358 norma
    .375 H&H
    .416 remington ................ EDIT-didn't put .338 lapua here, 33 cal bullet pretty small to have the energy of a
    .458 win mag. ........................ 1 oz projectile, no matter ohw fast it's going)
    .458 lott

    then the true elephant guns rounds, the nitro expresses and such, certainly have more muzzle energy.
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    Something in the 600 Nitro class.
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    I'm curious why you ask. Why not just used a 12 or 20 gauge? For what purpose?
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    700 Nitro Express...........WOWsers..........I know we had a couple boxes of 370 Nitro Express on the shelf at 299.95 a box of 20 but i can't imagine what the 700 would cost IF it's even available commercially.
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    45-70, 45Colt out of a rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimdaddy View Post
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    no way, .50 beo pretty much can't have enough velocity to meet the energy of a 1 oz slug, sorry, no how, no way. good cartridge, nasty up close in an AR, but no way.

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    700 Nitro Express...........WOWsers..........I know we had a couple boxes of 370 Nitro Express on the shelf at 299.95 a box of 20 but i can't imagine what the 700 would cost IF it's even available commercially.


    trying to remember, i know the .600 NE was the biggest, baddest, smokeless powdered "elephant gun".
    most of the Nitro Express were blackpowder, certainly anything above the .600, they did make all the way up too a .900 NE, few examples eist, and it was definately black powder. SOME of the older BP's were converted/new rifles made, for cordite. the think the .450 NE can be gotten cordite, but it's still fairly low pressure. still, energetic to be sure, but actually finding and owning a .600 NE Holland and Holland double rifle is another matter. what is that, a $20k gun, and that's a deal? cheaper to shoot slugs out of your 870.

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    hole cow, the .600 NE is badder than i remember.

    "The .600 Nitro Express: History, Reloading, Refinishing"- by Cal

    "In my rifle, I use 160 grains of 4831 to launch the 900 grain bullet at nearly 1950 fps."

    ..wow... that is almost, not quite, but almost, reaching .50 bmg territory..

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    IMHO, that's like asking which Porsche is most similar to the horsepower & handling of a...Pinto. Nothing against 12-20 gauge slugs but what we have here is a classic apples-to-oranges comparison. I, too, am now interested more in the "why" than the "what".
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