+p, +p+, what?!

+p, +p+, what?!

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    +p, +p+, what?!

    Probably not the right forum, but what is this +p and +p+ I keep seeing people refer to? Call me a little ignorant fellow and educate me!


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    You have the standard pressure/velocity cartridge. Then you have a little bit higher(+P) then even higher yet(+P+).

    The "P" stands for pressure. -----EDIT: thinkin' on it, or does it stand for "power" ??
    Last edited by RSSZ; December 20th, 2006 at 05:01 PM.

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    So when I hear about guns designed for +P and +P+, how new of guns must I look for? Or how will I know?

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    This type of ammo has been around for years. We are not talking antique now but many years. You can check manufacturer's specs. to find out if a particular gun can handle the higher pressure.
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    most all new guns can fire the +p+/+p ammo. if not the owners manual will tell you not to do so. i known my old j-frame is not rated for it, but i carry +p+ in it (that's what they issue for carry). i don't "q" with +p+, i use 148gr wad cutter ammo. i have seen some of the older j-frames lock up when shot with +p+ ammo, but this was after a 50 round course of fire. i don't think 5 or 10 rounds will hurt the old pin barrel j-frame.

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    +p mean it is above the standard pressure and power for a rated cartridge as rated by saami

    +P+ mean it exceeds power and pressure of the +p

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    check owners manual as others have said, I just did and S&W says no +P+ in any of their handguns.

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    what can happen when you use +P in a gun not designed for it?

    In my case I got off light ... broken barrel link in my RIA 1911a1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plblark View Post
    what can happen when you use +P in a gun not designed for it?

    In my case I got off light ... broken barrel link in my RIA 1911a1.
    Best--nothing
    mostly--- excessive wear and tear
    worst--- something breaks or kaboom and you get hurt
    sorry you had to find out

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    What Can Happen Shooting +P in a Non+ revolver.

    That was always a hot topic question in all of the Gun Magazines.

    Vintage or antique revolvers would be a nono

    I will give you their often published opinion.

    If it's a high quality fairly modern revolver in "good to excellent" mechanical condition then not much really if you just carried +P for defensive purposes and shot standard ammo for practice & general shooting.

    The non +P rated revolver can "shoot loose quickly" & go "out of time" when shooting +P ammunition or higher intensity ammunition.

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    There you have the standard (nearly universal) reply & not necessarily my personal opinion or the CombatCarry.com position or opinion.

    As with nearly everything else in this world - make your own personal decision as to if you want to do it or not.

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