Federal Hydra-Shok Question

Federal Hydra-Shok Question

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    Federal Hydra-Shok Question

    Okay, it maybe a stupid question, but here it goes.

    Does anybody understand the difference between the various Federal Hydra-Shok offerings? They have Federal Personal Defense Hydra-Shok, Federal Premium Personal Defense Hydra-Shok, and Federal Tactical Hydra-Shok. Is there really any difference besides the Tactical coming in a 50 round box?
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    price is all i can tell.
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    Federal Premium Ammunition - Contact Us

    Here ya go ,ask them they would probably be the best source of information.
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    As far as I can tell the first two that you mentioned are the same product. One difference is they are available in LR ( High Energy-Low Recoil as well as standard loads The LR loads have lighter bullets than the standard loads; 165 gr. compared to 230 gr. I cannot find a "tactical Hydra-Shok" listed in the Federal offerings. The only other difference that I have found is they offer JHP bullets and expanding full metal jacket.

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    When buying HS in 380ACP I spent some time trying to find what the difference was between "standard" and "low recoil" Hydra-Shoks. In 380, at least, I could not find *any* difference. Bullet weight and claimed muzzle velocity were the same, so I wrote the difference off to marketing.

    I don't know if there's an actual difference in other calibers.

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    I sent the e-mail.

    Quote Originally Posted by chp1911 View Post
    I cannot find a "tactical Hydra-Shok" listed in the Federal offerings.
    The tactical round is usually packed in fifty round packs and was marketed through ATK's LE distribution service.
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    Here is the exchange so far.

    I was wondering, what is the difference between Premium Self Defense, Self Defense, and Tactical Hydra-Shok rounds? Is there any significant construction difference?
    Yes, there can be differences in those lines of ammunition. There may be a different bullet type altogether. We would have to have the load numbers to compare the differences.

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    I wrote back asking if there was a specific production difference between the tactical ammo and the personal defense ammo that was universal. They responded with a link to the company ballistic chart. So, yes there is a difference, but it depends on when the bullet was made and **** you on specifics.
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    The packaging and marketing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    The packaging and marketing...
    It would seem so.
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    It has been my experience that "Tactical" often means a reduced powder charge in many brands.

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    From what I've seen, the personal defense line is low recoil and low weight while the premium is the same as the tactical but in a twenty round box instead of a 50 round box. I had a few boxes of the tactical and they were a bit different. One box had wider hollow point cavities than the other box. Odd I know but they were consistent. I'm thinking they were generational differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNice View Post
    I sent the e-mail.



    The tactical round is usually packed in fifty round packs and was marketed through ATK's LE distribution service.
    Ok that clears that up ,thanks. I am guessing that these are not available to the general public?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chp1911 View Post
    Ok that clears that up ,thanks. I am guessing that these are not available to the general public?
    They can be found at online retailers. There is no law against the general public owning them. It is a loosely enforced company policy. You can find LE ammo boxes on sale at numerous retailers.
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    Another thing to know about Hydra-Shok, the HST made the "old school" Hydra-Shok obsolete ....
    The old Hydra-Shok doesn't expand well if it hits 40,000 layers of denim before the gel...



    I have 180 gr. 40 S&W and 230 gr. 45 acp Hydra-Shok "Tactical" in 50 round boxes and it is the same effective load that it always was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDW4ME View Post
    Another thing to know about Hydra-Shok, the HST made the "old school" Hydra-Shok obsolete ....
    The old Hydra-Shok doesn't expand well if it hits 40,000 layers of denim before the gel...



    I have 180 gr. 40 S&W and 230 gr. 45 acp Hydra-Shok "Tactical" in 50 round boxes and it is the same effective load that it always was.
    I have seen some tests were, out of bigger guns like the Glock 17, it worked. I admit that it was basically better to bet against it though. I was just curious. I will probably be looking at HST next since Golden Saber is going for $0.87 per round now. I wish I had stocked up when it was running $12 a box at SGammo.

    The jacket separation wasn't a big issue to me. I figure the possibility that I'll be shooting through auto glass is low. Plus, they expand pretty fast compared to a bonded round.
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