Remington Golden Saber Black Belt

Remington Golden Saber Black Belt

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    I also like this part of the page

    "emington is also addressing the needs of concealed carry by splitting its Ultimate Defense line of ammunition into “Full Size” and “Compact” handgun-specific ammunition. The full-size ammunition is the same as that which is already available, just rebranded, but what is really notable is the Ultimate Defense Compact handgun ammunition. This ammunition has the same flash-suppressant powder and primer as the rest of the Ultimate Defense line, but the bullets have been redesigned with a softer lead core and hexagon-shaped hollow point to provide maximum expansion and penetration with the lower velocities encountered in compact and subcompact handguns. "

    Nice more makers are making compact ammo

    And yeah this bullet looks nice esp on pentration
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    I like it when American companies re-invent themselves. I believe their R51 pistol will go over well with Shooters. And this ammo also looks as if they are seriously looking ahead to their corporate future.
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    Hm. A separate belt (that has a risk of changing the shape/profile and hanging up on the chamber or barrel?) versus bonding. I wonder if that's anything to worry about, from the standpoint of reliability and/or accuracy.
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    I've had good results from regular Golden Sabers. I may give these a try once I see them on the shelves. It'll be hard to sway me from my Winchester Rangers though.
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    Goes to show that even good quality ammo needs a catchy, tacticool name so as to stir up interest in it.
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    I really like the Golden Sabers (especially for my .45's) and would give these a try. They sound interesting, but it'd take a lot of testing (for reliable feeding more than anything else) before I'd carry them.
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    They'll NEVER catch on. 'Cause the box doesn't have the word "Zombie" printed anywhere on it. In fact, The Golden Sabers is one of the proposed names for the current (offensively-named) Washington Redskins.
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    It does say it was "designed for law enforcement". That should be enough to sell a few boxes.


    Personally I am not a fan of Golden Saber's. tested them many years ago and could never get reliable expansion but always got case separation. They may have improved the design over the years, never cared to find out.

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    Count me out. I carry the original Golden Sabers but this seems like a risky gimmick. Other companies bond the bullet. Hornady simply crimps the bullet. This extra piece that could slip or break loose just seems like a pointless move to look cool and tactical.

    I wonder, how close Ultimate Defense is to the original Golden Saber?
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    Is this replaceing the reg. golden saber? If so is the 357mag goeing to be med. vel. like the org.

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    Remington ammunition ballistics have been underwhelming for me. At best, they are average velocity.
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    Velocity is not the end all to measuring a bullets terminal performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agalindo View Post
    Velocity is not the end all to measuring a bullets terminal performance.

    Right! Velocity doesn't matter and size doesn't matter. I know, I have heard all the rationalizations and justifications people use. You can't revise the laws of physics.
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    Actually size does matter. The bigger the hole the more damage and the more bleeding. Velocity in and of itself is not a good measure, it's what the bullet does with the velocity it has. 1. Expand 2. penetrate deep.

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