Speer 158gr. 357 magnum gold dots? Not for snub nose?

Speer 158gr. 357 magnum gold dots? Not for snub nose?

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    Speer 158gr. 357 magnum gold dots? Not for snub nose?

    I have a few boxes of these that I've yet to shoot. Are theses full power 357's and not meant for use in a snubbie? They JHP's so I'd assume they're meant for personal protection.

    I ask as I have a S&W 640-1 and am currently using the 125gr golden sabers as a carry load. I've shot other 158gr 357's and they seem to recoil less than the 125gr stuff,to me at least. Has anyone here used these is a sub 4" barrel,if so what did you think? Thanks for any info guys.
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    Speer makes a short barrel and full barrel load for 357 either one will work and be low flash . And yes they are perosnal protection rounds Speer Ammo - Ballistics Tables
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    Shot most loads out of my SP or Mod 60 snub. Gd are very good my fav is the 125 gr jhp low flash low smoke from buffalo bore still has 1225 fps out of a 2 inch barrel

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    I fired 158 grainers through SP101s before, and personally find them a little better than the 125's in terms of muzzle blast. That said, you will definitely get more penetration with the 158's. Expansion may be a little less consistant due to the lower velocity. They will however pack quite a whallup where the "muzzle meets meat". You may find them a little more accurate than the lighter loads, which was the case with my SP101. Recoil impulse is always a individual perception. If you can fire them more accurately than the lighter loads they may very well be an alternative to look at.
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    As a follow-up, I found this test with the Gold Dot out of a 3 inch GP. It gives you an idea of what to expect as far as performance goes. It the Underwood version, which reportedly is a little hotter, but it just a general idea.

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    Its a 357 magnum, use them and enjoy.
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    Thanks guys I do prefer the heavier round for SD I'll update after my range visit this week.

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    Would like to hear about your impressions after the trip to the range.

    Don't frequently carry a .357 Magnum revolver but prefer 158 grain loads if I do. That includes use in 2 1/2-inch revolvers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    Would like to hear about your impressions after the trip to the range.

    Don't frequently carry a .357 Magnum revolver but prefer 158 grain loads if I do. That includes use in 2 1/2-inch revolvers.
    When I was using factory fodder, I found the 145 weight Silvertips quite to my liking:)
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    Its hard to go wrong with a 357 Mag. My carry load was the 145 STHP for many years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911luver View Post
    I have a few boxes of these that I've yet to shoot. Are theses full power 357's and not meant for use in a snubbie? They JHP's so I'd assume they're meant for personal protection.

    I ask as I have a S&W 640-1 and am currently using the 125gr golden sabers as a carry load. I've shot other 158gr 357's and they seem to recoil less than the 125gr stuff,to me at least. Has anyone here used these is a sub 4" barrel,if so what did you think? Thanks for any info guys.
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    I carry a Taurus® Mdl 617SS2 7 shot 2¼" barrel 357 Magnum. I carry 158gr JHP 357 Magnum Loads exclusively in this gun for several reasons.....
    • It's regulated to shoot to POA with 158gr ammunition
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    • 158gr ammunition has less recoil & muzzleblast than 110gr or 125gr 357 Mag ammo in a snubby

    A real sleeper of a 158gr load that is low recoil and accurate is the CCI® BLAZER® #3542
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    I tried Gold Dots in my 640-1 and did not find them as accurate as the Low Flash Lower Recoil .357 loads from Buffalo Bore. BB makes a great product, so it might be something to consider.

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    It performs well from a 4" in bare gel. Leaves quite a bit to be desired from the same pistol when a heavy clothing barrier is introduced. 125 GD 357 performed better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    When I was using factory fodder, I found the 145 weight Silvertips quite to my liking:)
    Yes sir indeed! Good, accurate, and well performing round. Haven't seen any out there on the market for some time though. I the OP could lay hands on some, that would be a potent combination for carry.
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