Good HOME defense round.

Good HOME defense round.

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    Good HOME defense round.

    Hey Ya'll

    Looking for some advise on a good HOME defense round to feed my XD .40S&W.

    Little backround on the home.

    All brick exterior one storry rancher. Very long house. Standard interior construction dry wall on wood framing.

    MBR on far end of house full view of hallway with two additional BR opening off right side as looking down hall from MBR.

    Single bathroom and stairway to basement opens to left about 3/4 down hall. Hallway opens at the end to mainentrance on right and family room on left. The entrance hall wall on the right forms the back wall of main hall.

    Formal LR opens on right about 2.5 feet down the hall from front door. LR is open to DR and Kitchen is off DR. Kitchen is open to Familly room mentioned above.

    Any assistance would be appreciated.
    Thanks MikeV


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    Forgive me, perhaps there's something I'm not seeing here. What exactly do you mean by a "HOME defense round"? Why should the round you use for home defense be any different than the round you use for personal defense generally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackeagle View Post
    Forgive me, perhaps there's something I'm not seeing here. What exactly do you mean by a "HOME defense round"? Why should the round you use for home defense be any different than the round you use for personal defense generally?
    He lives in MD and ccw is next to impossible there.

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    Perhaps he wants a more powerful round for home defence considering the brick exterior etc. In general however Blackeagle is right. For pistols, the best home defence round is one that expands consistently, and leaves all its energy in the target (does not overpenetrate). Usually, that means using the same round for home as for CCW. In that brick house, you may even consider an AR style rifle (which, suprisingly, does not penetrate much further than 9mm ball ammo through drywall, etc.), or a 12 gauge.

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    double post

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    I use Federal PD Hydrashock. I started using it, because that was the only personal defense round that my local shop had in .380 for P232. They shot so well, that I started using them with my Beretta 92 as well. There are a lot of good choices though. Try a bunch and see what shoots well with your gun.




    Quote Originally Posted by Blackeagle View Post
    Forgive me, perhaps there's something I'm not seeing here. What exactly do you mean by a "HOME defense round"? Why should the round you use for home defense be any different than the round you use for personal defense generally?
    I have to agree with Blackeagle. Personal defense is personal defense. If you'd like something different for your home, how about a nice cylinder bore Mossberg 500 loaded up with some #00 shot?
    When the messenger arrives and says 'Don't shoot the messenger,' it's a good idea to be prepared to shoot the messenger, just in case.

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    Thanks to all for the information so far.
    What I am actually looking to find out is if there is such athing as a round that is especially designed so as not to penetrate through lets say two walls of sheet rock in an interior of a house. I understand that the obvious answer is "Don't miss and you needed worry." Well we all know that that isn't the real answer.

    Unfortunatly the 12guage, although IMO it is the best tool for the job, isn't an option due to wife concerns at this time.

    If the answer is "Premium" Jacketed Hollow Points, so be it. I was just wondering if there were any other options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackeagle View Post
    Forgive me, perhaps there's something I'm not seeing here. What exactly do you mean by a "HOME defense round"? Why should the round you use for home defense be any different than the round you use for personal defense generally?
    use the same ammo that you carry. if that not to your standards get youself a 12ga shotgun with some 00 buck. or you could look at the 20ga shotgun. lots have moved to the 20ga for home protection. it seems that the wifes can shoot the 20ga better than the 12ga.
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    If there's anything the guys over at The Box O' Truth have proven, it's that any round that has enough penetration to take out a BG is going to go through interior walls like a hot knife through butter. There's really no way around this, compared to flesh and bone, drywall just doesn't offer much resistance. Handgun bullets, rifle bullets and buckshot will all go through at least four interior walls. Birdshot won't penetrate more than one wall, but it won't penetrate the BG either.

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    I think Blackeagle is right. You can get some of those speciality rounds like Glasers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug) or one of the other frangible rounds but those are not particularly proven man stoppers. Not something I would bet my life, or the lives of my loved ones, on using for home defense.
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    I use glaser's in my 45 at my bedside. While I know they will go through drywall, they aren't going to have nearly the power after going through the drywall as would the corbon DPX that I have in my carry gun. And since I have kids in scattered bedrooms, if a missed shot goes through drywall and hits one of them, I want it to have as little power as is possible. And Glasers will do fine if I hit the home invader.

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    Thanks

    I will look into the Glaser's, may have to shoot some so as to make sure won't have any feeding problems. What do you think about this configuration of let's say, 1 GSS in the pipe and the top three in the mag followed by 9 "gold dot, hydroshocks" or what have you to follow up with if threat is still active after first 4 shots?

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    Cor-Bon DPX would be first choice...

    Federal HST comes in at number two...

    Speer Gold Dot (bonded) gets the bronze...


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    If concerned about bullets that will escape the exterior walls of your house, consider a shotgun with #3/#4 shot, or a weak and underpowered handgun round.

    For me, I've accepted that a handgun round that has decent stopping power is, almost certainly, going to travel through at least a couple of walls in an opposing house. I'm far more worried about stopping an attack than hitting someone in the next house. So, it's the same hot loads for me. Heck, even a basic 9mm load will go through a few gypsum board layers.

    Only real alternatived: shotgun, or perhaps one of the frangible loads (Magsafe, Glaser).
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    If the round is placed in the center of mass of the BG it shouldn't penetrate to many walls upon exit, this means practice, practice practice. Shot placement is everything. I agree anything that will not penetrate a sheetrocked wall will more than likely not bring down a perp wearing a heavy jacket.
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