This is a discussion on Same shot placement, do you think 9mm, 357 Sig, 40, 45 offer equal incapacitation? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I see people claim that there is not any significant difference in the incapacitation potential of the "service calibers" 9mm, 357 Sig, 40, 45. Do ...
I see people claim that there is not any significant difference in the incapacitation potential of the "service calibers" 9mm, 357 Sig, 40, 45.
Do you agree?
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Of course not - but a whole lot closer than most will ever admit.
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Another calibre thread? Hold on, let me get my beer so I can more thoroughly enjoy the 'debate'.
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Rule 9 says there isn't much difference...........We also discourage "caliber war" threads and strongly encourage you not to post a thread starting one. Regardless of your level of experience, caliber is a personal preference and what is right for you may not be right for others.
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Some caliber of bullets make bigger holes than others...just saying....
The poll... I answered yes, because I assume you mean good shot placement. If you shoot a completely non vital area, something like a 45 might have more impact on the person than a 9mm. If you mean a shot to a vital organ, then there is probably not enough difference to matter.
I answered no, too many variables.
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I answered no, but it really depends on where that same shot is placed. In some places they would all yield the same results, in others, not so much.
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Depends what you are shooting at.. A heart I would want the largest caliber to do the most damage. An engine block I would want the penetrating power of .357 sig. The important thing is finding a balance of power and recoil that works best for you to make you an accurate shooter as quickly as possible.
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If shot placement is between the eyes then all 4 are equal! However add a barrier I would base on our test of ballistic glass I would go with the 357 Sig or 40 S & W. But if it is a pelvic area shot I would say the 45ACP! But I carry a 357 Sig and shoot it very well so DON'T corn-fuse me with all those personal preferences! Any of the 4 will service you well if you train with them and can have rapid follow up shots! JMHO!
But then again maybe a 10mm or 50AE?
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I answered yes, but only because I wanted to keep the results close.
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All things being equal- same shot placement same number of shots delivered- I'll go with the bigger hole every time. But we don't live in a world where all things are equal. A platform will hold more 9mm than 45 ACP. Thus I'm left with a bit of a personal conundrum. There's a reason I own both. There's also a reason I've moved away from 40/357 Sig platforms- compromises don't give enough of any upside to mitigate the downside... to me.
Caliber preference is a personal decision. People that somehow wrap their self worth up in the caliber they pick are only fooling themselves. I'll keep carrying a 9mm with 124 gr +P Gold Dots on duty and off duty I'll sometimes pick a gun with the same load and sometimes I'll go with the 230 gr 45... because that's what I picked for myself that day.
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