Woods Ammo For The 40 S&W and 9mm

Woods Ammo For The 40 S&W and 9mm

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    Woods Ammo For The 40 S&W and 9mm

    What do you use in your 9mm and 40 S&W on the bike n hiking trail as far as ammo. I was thinking Hornady XTP and also tourniquet bullets.
    We have the occasional hog sometimes run across the Moose once in awhile may see a black bear, Cougars or Wolves at times. As with any wildlife you never know who or what you may stumble upon in the woods.


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    If I were going to be carrying in the wilds and may encounter hostile critters I'd sure like something larger than 9mm. Having said that, I'd also prefer a hard cast lead round in whatever I'm carrying.
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    I think BB makes some heavy FN in 9mm, I'm confident that a 9mm, 40 Smith and Wesson or a.45 ACP would be just fine on the trail with the correct bullet and placement. The 44 mag is just to much for the trail.

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    Are you concerned with self protection or hunting ?

    Both rounds are light for moose or black bear and marginal for hog at best.

    I carry a 9mm and .40 S&W for two legged protection but my minimal for your situation would be a .357 magnum.

    For a semi-auto a 10mm would be the lowest I would go however I do not own one.

    If you must use the calibers you mentioned then I would go with the heaviest bullet available and I would go with Buffalo Bore.

    https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...oduct_list&c=1
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    A bonded heavy (180 gr) for the .40. It's less than ideal but would be much better than 9mm IMHO. A heavy .357 or better yet .44 mag would be the way I go for those circumstances. Good luck!
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    "Tourniquet bullets"??? Never heard of 'em.

    If your potential threats are from bears, big cats and wolves, I'd leave the 9mm behind if you have something bigger. .40 is a move in the right direction but still a little short. In the handgun rounds, I'd choose a load that's heavy for the caliber and I'd favor penetration over expansion.
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    Worse case I would take the 45 Super or .460 Rowland with 265gr or 300gr Cast performance bullets.

    Just looking for something a little bit lighter to carry around.

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    That was a typo it was supposed to be TMJ total metal jacket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    "Tourniquet bullets"??? Never heard of 'em.

    If your potential threats are from bears, big cats and wolves, I'd leave the 9mm behind if you have something bigger. .40 is a move in the right direction but still a little short. In the handgun rounds, I'd choose a load that's heavy for the caliber and I'd favor penetration over expansion.
    The 45 super or 460 rowland can go, but that is a lot of weight on the hip, I would be better with an 12ga shotgun. It`s almost lighter. :)

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    If you have a 45acp, any 230 weight bullet is gonna be fine, although the 225 weight Lead TC bullet is the best.

    For your 40, a 180 weight bullet in a controlled expansion design would be good.
    Both of these calibers and bullets I have listed should work fine on anything, even black bears.

    There's really not much you can do with the 9mm to make it a woods gun. The only thing that would allow it to fill that role in a light capacity would be to find a 147-155 weight flat nose lead bullet that it would feed reliably, and I know of no such bullet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildchild2010 View Post
    What do you use in your 9mm and 40 S&W on the bike n hiking trail as far as ammo. I was thinking Hornady XTP and also tourniquet bullets.
    We have the occasional hog sometimes run across the Moose once in awhile may see a black bear, Cougars or Wolves at times. As with any wildlife you never know who or what you may stumble upon in the woods.
    If you are absolutely confined to those two calibers...

    You could load this-

    9mm Ammo - 147 gr FMJ - Federal American Eagle 9mm Ammunition

    or this-

    40 S&W Ammo - 180 gr FMJ - Federal American Eagle .40S&W Ammunition - 50 Rounds

    -and get roughly the same penetration -about 30-32 inches in soft tissue in which case I'd recommend using the .40 S&W for its (very) slightly wider wound channel.
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    Animals that can eat you? That scenario has SHOTGUN written all over it.

    You can carry a backup handgun if you like - to shoot yourself with if the shotgun fails you.
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    I'd carry a can of wasp spray as a back up, seriously. They shoot (spray) a long way and it would stop any of those animals if you get it in their face. Guns are great protection but the wasp spray keeps spraying and your aim wouldn't have to be that good if all you are wanting to do is keep the animal away from you. Still carry the gun and I like the .40 idea.
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    For my .40 I would carry my handloaded home cast 175 gr LSWC/5.0 gr Unique. 5.5 gr gives it a lil more pep, but the 5.0 gr load shoots a lot better. But usually carrt a .357 magnum in the woods.
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