Hogs and Handguns......357 sig or .40?

Hogs and Handguns......357 sig or .40?

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    Hogs and Handguns......357 sig or .40?

    I've shot pigs with the .40, and I know it'll do, but a buddy of mine and I are going out in a few weeks to help a guy clear his land. And while my 12 gauge with slugs will be on my shoulder, I really want to pop one with my G23. Anyone here think getting a G32 barrel and using a .357 sig round would be better than the 180gr HST's I have right now in .40?

    In my mind, the 180gr 40 S&W is better, but some guys swear the .357 sig is a real boomer. I'd kinda like to see what it does just to gauge whether or not it might make for good carry ammo.

    Thoughts and/or real experience greatly appreciated! Last thing I want to do is make a hog very angry and not be able to drop it!
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    .44 Mag Long barrel or the .357 You can go real +P in the .357, but I still go with heavy grain and mass semi-wads in the .44 in that situation, with boars. Will go right though the front and come out the back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    .44 Mag Long barrel or the .357 You can go real +P in the .357, but I still go with heavy grain and mass semi-wads in the .44 in that situation, with boars. Will go right though the front and come out the back!
    I wish I had a .44, but I don't. My only real "hunting" handgun is the Glock.
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    While I don't hunt hogs, this load should do nicely. Heavier bullet for better penetration, and still smoking hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonker1986 View Post
    While I don't hunt hogs, this load should do nicely. Heavier bullet for better penetration, and still smoking hot.

    Thank you. Didn't even know 147gr was an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    ...You can go real +P in the .357...
    No, you can't. There is no such thing as "real +P" in .357 (Sig or Mag).
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    https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...t_detail&p=347 ?

    Due to customer requests, here is our new “Outdoorsman” 200gr. hard cast flat nosed 40 S&W standard pressure load. We’ve designed this deep penetrating load for use against wild animals where large bones such as a black bears shoulders or skull may need to be penetrated
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    As a long time fan of the .357SIG, I don't know if I'd feel confident using it against hogs. If you have used .40/180 and it's worked for you, then zonker1986's choice of the 147 grain XTP, would be what I would use. But I think I'd feel even better with the 200 grain load from Buffalo Bore in .40.

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    Absent real-world experience, I'd opt for bigger diameter and heavier bullet. Given your choice of .357 Sig or .40 S&W, that favors the .40.
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    The smallest that I will take when I'm hog hunting is a 10mm and even that is my *backup* to my .45-70 rifle. I figure that you don't arm yourself for what you are likely to encounter, but rather for what would be the worst that you might encounter.

    I also prefer cast lead bullets on hogs. For a big hog, I want PENETRATION and a lot of it.
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    Hogs are tough & mean.... Call in an air strike...
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    A year or so back I purchased a Lone Wolf barrel and was highly impressed by it. The .357 Sig should be a potent pill for those little "bacon tanks" with a well placed shot. Personally I believe a good bonded hollow point along the lines of a 125 grain Gold Dot or Golden Saber would fit the bill nicely. The bonded slug would penetrate deeply enough to strike vitals and still have enough energy for expansion, shock, etc. You might even look at Buffalo Bore's offerings if you can locate them and order them in time. I pasted their technical information below in case you were not familiar with it. They are utilizing a Speer Gold Dot load in their version of this load.

    Technical Information

    •Caliber: 357 Sig
    •Bullet Weight: 125 Grains
    •Bullet Style: Jacketed Hollow Point
    •Case Type: Brass

    Ballistics Information:

    •Muzzle Velocity: 1433 fps
    •Muzzle Energy: 575 ft. lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    One way to find out--shoot one.
    If it does not charge you and kill you it was enough???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock2201 View Post
    If it does not charge you and kill you it was enough???
    Well, again the pistol will be on my hip but my 12 gauge will be on my shoulder. Also, my friend will have his .308 rifle and his Glock as well. We will be adequately armed, but I was hoping a pig would be unaware of my presence and offer a 20 yard shot broadside so I could feel confident popping him with the G23. My thought was if the .357 sig dropped the pig dead, it'd be a good carry load too. That's why I wanted to try the 125gr 1400fps loads. Underwood ammo makes a 125gr load that has a Gold Dot bullet at 1500fps out of the Glock 32 or something similar.

    The .40 will do the job, but it takes one well placed head shot or a couple not so well placed shots. Some police agencies have said the .357 sig stops guys in their tracks even with non-lethal hits, I'd just like to try it on live game since I can't shoot child molesters for testing (which should be how we test rounds IMO)
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