This is a discussion on Why must it be so difficult within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; It seems everytime I decide on a new carry cartridge, after reading positive tests, then I suddenly find a bunch of horible test results. So ...
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It seems everytime I decide on a new carry cartridge, after reading positive tests, then I suddenly find a bunch of horible test results. So then I move on to another cartridge that so promise and sure enough there will be tests disproving that. We are all agreed that shot placement is the key, but I still want the most accurate and most consistent exanding bullet I can find. Why oh why must it be so difficult.
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It's not...it's called Corbon DPX. Or, if you're a hankerin for 380, then it's called Hornady 90 gr JHP XTP.
Just my $.02
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Tried Gold Dots yet,
Liked and used by many on here. I haven't had any problems yet, the wet pack rounds looked great, my own that is. The test I trust the most.
I think a lot of test are like opinions, you know what they say about those.
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If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand
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Also remember that not all bullets will act exactly like they are designed to. There is no possible way to make sure that every bullet expands perfectly.
I presonally have a mix. I use Speer Gold dots in my .357 Mag and my .45 and Hornady TAP in my 9mm. Gold Dots expand really well and every reliably but dont take on the "talon" appearance at the edges that so many people adore.
I carry because I care.
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Hmmmm...not sure about that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestOriginally Posted by 4my son
If a test was an opinion, and snicks are snacks, and bricks were tacks, then I guess dogs are cats.
#1 priority? Does my gun eat this ammo consistently?
If answer a firm ''yes'' then overall I'd not worry unduly about the final performance. If you can deliver that reliably the chances are with most well recognized modern ammo - it will get the job done.
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I have said this more than once ....
Folks are too busy looking for that "magic" bullet that has 100% one shot kills , 100% of the time. And it's not out there.
I have never felt "undergunned" if I have a .45 acp with only (gasp)FMJ loads.
Find a gun/caliber/ammo that you shoot well , are reliable and tou are comfortable with and then :
Practice ....... Practice ... and Practice
Remember ..... Your Mind is your most important weapon.
(some of us are just naturally less "armed" than others)
Stay Safe
A LTTLE TRAINING IS A DANGEROUS THING ....
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Exactly.I have said this more than once ....
Folks are too busy looking for that "magic" bullet that has 100% one shot kills , 100% of the time. And it's not out there.
I have never felt "undergunned" if I have a .45 acp with only (gasp)
Find a gun/caliber/ammo that you shoot well , are reliable and tou are comfortable with and then :
Practice ....... Practice ... and Practice
Remember ..... Your Mind is your most important weapon.
(some of us are just naturally less "armed" than others)
Stay Safe
I carry Winchester white box jhp. They don't get the absolute best ballistic reviews but at 11.95 for a box of 50, I can practice enough to be comfortable with my accuracy. I also know they cycle in my carry piece. Some of that ammo is ridiculously priced and it makes me ask how people afford to practice with it? If I had to use that stuff for self defense I would ask for my bullet back afterwards.
The Problem: When stupid people do stupid things, smart people end up getting killed.
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Might I suggest you take a look at the Federal Expanding Full Metal Jacket ammo?
I have heard good things about them and the one time I got to shoot some, they not only look like regular full metal jacket ammo but they feed just a well too.
Expand no matter what type of clothing they go through first too.
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P95Carry, of course, is spot on. Learn to shoot like a god, and you are set.
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about as good as it gets in terms of reliablity, penetration,(based on application i.e. car doors, windshields, etc.), and expansion. PT111 gets ten ring accuracy on the suggestion.
Last edited by dfoster9; January 6th, 2007 at 12:50 PM.
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I think most any modern bullet will do just fine, maybe some better then others. If one is under attack one should keep firing till the attack is stopped anyway so instead of one it may take three, so what, if in the end you are still alive.
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May I ask why you prefer the XTP in .380? Is it because it expands less and may penetrate deeper?
I have my .380 loaded with DPX, it seems to do well in tests.
Thanks for any info.
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