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.40 cal defensive ammo

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    .40 cal defensive ammo

    Okay all I'm looking for inputs from those of you that have the experience. I'm looking for the the best defensive loads & bullet types for carrying in my Ruger KP944.

    Thanks for the help.
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    Your Ruger will eat most anything you throw at it. That said, I usually carry Federal Hydra-Shok in my Taurus PT-101.

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    I use Speer Gold dot, as I have heard nothing bad about it.

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    shoot alot and pick the best.

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    I have a Ruger p-944. I use winchester ranger sxt in 180gr. I use these because I came across a good deal at a gun show. As noted above your gun will digest just about anything marked .40S&W. I have noticed out of my gun the 180 gr loads shoot more to point of aim. Lighter bullets tend to hit a little low for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotammo View Post
    shoot alot and pick the best.
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    That is the best in my opinion. I have 165gr. Ranger SXT's and 165 gr. Winchester silvertips. I elected to strictly shoot 165 gr. because all the research I did showed better balistics and fewer problems with 165 gr. The 180g gr bullets reportedly kb'd more often, usually associated with the bullet seating ever so slightly deeper when the gun cycled. This would increase the pressure beyond the limits of the gun. The 165 gr., theoretically, had a little more "gimme" room if the bullet seated a little deeper, thus avoiding the kb factor. Remember also, there is no such thing as a +P or +P+ for .40 s&w. They are allready loaded at maximum pressure.
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    There are a lot of excellent choices. I really like the following weight bullets for .40's:

    Speer Gold Dot in 155grs.
    Federal HST in 155grs.
    Speer Gold Dot in 165grs.
    Remington Golden Sabers in 165grs.
    Winchester Ranger SXT in 165grs.

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    I shoot Speer Gold Dot. Heaviest one they sell - 180gr I think. I've been told by numerous people that this tends to be the superior carry round. However..... Like gotammo said. Shoot and pick what you like. But do some research also.

    Once you find one you like - put about 200 rounds of it through your gun (without any failures) before you rely on it.
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    as has been said above ... there is no magic bullet, pick a load that shoots to point of aim and then carry it. If it " shoots where it looks " and feeds then you got it all covered imho .
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    I've gone through just about all of it, and have decided to stick with 165 gr. Golden Saber. That said, you will not go wrong with any of the choices listed here.
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    Thanks Everyone for the replies! Great stuff and I realize its a trial and error type thing. Research and confidence in what you carry is key. Looks like I'll be spending alot MORE time at the range. Once qagain thanks to all.

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    I like Federal's Expandable Full Metal Jacket (EFMJ)'s.
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    I just ordered a 40cal sampler pack from Double Tap.
    135gr Nosler JHP
    165gr Gold Dot JHP
    180gr Gold Dot JHP
    200gr Controlled Expansion JHP
    50 rounds each, 200 rounds total. A bit pricey but I figured I figured what the hell. Also ordered a few thousand rounds from AmmoMan for me and the wife to use at the range. I seem to end up at the range more and more lately and paying the range ammo prices gets a bit steep 2 or 3x a week.
    But for CCW I'm really leaning towards the 165's or 180gr JHP's. My KP944 DOES eat anything I put in it but am really comfortable with the 165's or 180's.
    Has anyone here tried DoubleTaps ammo?

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    When I took my concealed carry course it was through a local police academy. One of the officers that taught our class was part of a joint task force. So he worked with many different departments and federal agencies. He said that he is always quizzing the other officers as to favorite rounds. He told us the one thing he has learned and wanted all of us to leave with was to alway use a bonded round. I have always followed that advise when choosing my carry rounds.
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    I've decided on the Federal EFMJ in agreement with ArmyCop. I recently saw a photo ballistic comparison chart using 4 layers of denim and a deep wetpack. All the rounds were .45ACP but the 200 gr EFMJ was obviously better at staying un-clogged and mushrooming perfectly after traveling 11 inches thru this stuff. The Federal 230 gr Hydra-Shoks and the 230 gr Golden Sabers all penetrated the same 11 inches but never expanded adequately. I'd bet a 180 gr .40 EFMJ would perform similarly, but I'm no expert.

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