Good article on carry ammo

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    Good article on carry ammo

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    The amazing thing is, there have been multiple studies that have shown this very thing over the years, done by any number of different people, and yet people such as you still refuse to believe the data. I find that funny.

    Here is another one. Same conclusion, more data collected over a long period of time. Very, very little difference between any handgun calibers.

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    Yes,well I'll keep my .45zzz.
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    Statistics, rationalizations, and anecdotal evidence can prove anything. The laws of physics do not change.
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    The laws of physics....nice. Tell me, do you have a degree in physics? Because I do. And I can tell you, from that standpoint, there is no real difference between any handgun ammo when it comes to energy transferred to the target. You can measure it but in the real world, it makes so little difference as to be insignificant in the extreme.

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    Yes,well I'll keep my .45zzz.
    As for keeping your .45, that is perfectly fine. As I said before, carry and use whatever you want. Whatever works best for you, whatever you like and whatever you shoot well with. But, be aware that whatever you use, there is no difference between it and any major caliber. That is the point of the article. I am not advocating any caliber or ammo.
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    I have learned two things from internet gun forums:

    Caliber does not matter for protection from a person.
    Caliber is very critical for protection from a bear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaCharlie View Post
    There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. - Mark Twain
    Interestingly, Mark Twain adopted that phrase from Benjamin Disraeli -- a British politician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TN_Mike View Post
    The laws of physics....nice. Tell me, do you have a degree in physics? Because I do. And I can tell you, from that standpoint, there is no real difference between any handgun ammo when it comes to energy transferred to the target. You can measure it but in the real world, it makes so little difference as to be insignificant in the extreme.



    As for keeping your .45, that is perfectly fine. As I said before, carry and use whatever you want. Whatever works best for you, whatever you like and whatever you shoot well with. But, be aware that whatever you use, there is no difference between it and any major caliber. That is the point of the article. I am not advocating any caliber or ammo.
    There may not be an overall difference in effectiveness between one round and the next across a wide variety of circumstances, but that doesn't mean there's no difference. A person may be better served with 9mm in one situation and .45 in another situation.

    And if you have a degree in physics, let me know what you think of the discussion of Newton's laws in the FBI report references in the article, which people believe represents some kind of definitive statement of handgun effectiveness. (Hint: it's garbage.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwell97 View Post
    There may not be an overall difference in effectiveness between one round and the next across a wide variety of circumstances, but that doesn't mean there's no difference. A person may be better served with 9mm in one situation and .45 in another situation.

    And if you have a degree in physics, let me know what you think of the discussion of Newton's laws in the FBI report references in the article, which people believe represents some kind of definitive statement of handgun effectiveness. (Hint: it's garbage.)

    Since one does not know exactly what the bullet will be required to do in a self-defense situation, using the FBI protocols to evaluate self-defense ammunition makes sense. A 9mm bullet that passes the protocols is probably a better choice than a
    .45 ACP bullet that does not.
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