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Speer GD .40 S&W

This is a discussion on Speer GD .40 S&W within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I currently carry Federal Hydra-Shoks .40 S&W 165 gr in my duty weapon G23. Off-duty I carried same ammo in 155 gr in my G27. ...

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    Speer GD .40 S&W

    I currently carry Federal Hydra-Shoks .40 S&W 165 gr in my duty weapon G23. Off-duty I carried same ammo in 155 gr in my G27. I would carry 155 gr as duty ammo but that is not allowed by my Dept.

    I was doing some research lately and observed that the Speer GD 155 gr travels a good bit faster and hits harder than the Federal. So I put some through my G27 and it felt a good bit sharper in the recoil. However, it was still controllable and I was able to get good follow up shots.

    I will try to get my firearms instructor's to switch over to this round.
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    A year ago I was doing some research on SD ammo. I was comparing several ammos, but I do remember that in comparing the 165gr Federal Hydra-Shoks to the Speer Gold Dots, it appeared on paper, that the Federal round was a lacking. I used the Speer GD then and still do, but found it strange that there was that kind of difference in two supposedly top SD rounds.
    I like the GD in just about everything I have. It is consistently a great round. I am trying out some Winchester Ranger ammo right now.

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    If you like the GD round, why not use the load that Speer developed specifically for short barreled weapons (e.g. G27)? Try the 180gr Gold Dot Short Barrel load. Massive Hollowpoint and they do an honest 950fps out of a 3.5" weapon. If a 155gr bullet was better for a short barrel weapon then Speer would have chosen that weight I reckon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRT View Post
    If you like the GD round, why not use the load that Speer developed specifically for short barreled weapons (e.g. G27)? Try the 180gr Gold Dot Short Barrel load. Massive Hollowpoint and they do an honest 950fps out of a 3.5" weapon. If a 155gr bullet was better for a short barrel weapon then Speer would have chosen that weight I reckon.
    Out of a G27the 180 gr is travelling at 934 FPS and hitting with 349 lbs of kinetic energy. The 155 gr is travelling at 1148 FPS and hitting with 454 lbs of kinetic energy. Those are better numbers than the Federal's 155 gr out of a longer barrel G23.
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    You can get a 165gr .40 Gold Dot (assuming its the bullet weight that you're department is not allowing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    You can get a 165gr .40 Gold Dot (assuming its the bullet weight that you're department is not allowing).
    They actually want us to use the Federal 165 gr HS while on duty. Off-duty I can carry whatever I want.
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    For your reference, here is Gold Dot terminal ballistic data (after IWBA heavy clothing) directly from SPEER's 2007 LE catalog:

    Caliber/Weight/Penetration/Expansion/test Weapon:

    9mm, 115, 18.85", .510", P226
    9mm+P+, 115, 15.90", .530", G17
    9mm, 124, 16.43", .555", P226
    9mm+P, 124, 15.88", .560", G17
    9mm, 147, 16.93", .540", P226
    .357Sig, 125, 17.50", .535", P226
    .38+P, 135, 13.00", .554", S&W640
    .357Mag, 125, 22.75", .394", S&W65
    .357Mag, 158, 24.85", .402", S&W65
    .40S&W, 155, 14.45", .630", G23
    .40S&W, 165, 17.55", .583", S&W4006
    .40S&W, 180, 14.10", .662", G23
    .45ACP, 185, 15.00", .651", P220
    .45ACP+P, 200, 15.20", .675", G21
    .45ACP, 230, 14.55", .675", S&W4506

    They also provided a data sheet for the .40 Short Barrel Load (IWBA 4 layer denim):

    .40S&W, 180, 13.25", .648", G27

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    i've had very good results with the 185gr 45acp load the 40 i'm not to fond of but its a good round my best friend shoots the 180gr 40 load in his XD and has had great results. just my .02 cents
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    IF I was buying GD for my .40 I'd avoid 165gr and get the 180gr, 155gr would be my second choice. Speers data shows that the 165gr doesnt open as well as the other two.

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