WWB 180gr 40sw jhp test from today

WWB 180gr 40sw jhp test from today

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    WWB 180gr 40sw jhp test from today

    I wanted to do a test on the 40sw Winchester White Box 180gr jhp rounds that Walmart sells. These were priced right at $20 for a 50rd box. Label: USA40J

    These are not the bonded rounds and jacket separation was evident.

    Shot 3 rounds and all expanded fully.










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    Wow, those are wicked for sure I don't remember WM having those but that's not a bad price.

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    Nice to see. I picked up a couple boxes of those and was hopeing someone would run a test.
    Thanks

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    Nice! Paraphrasding Mas Ayoob, if the mutant zombie plastic jugs ever attack you, you're all set!

    Not raining on your parade - just recognize that your simple field test is light years away from the tests the ammo makers themselves run on their own products. What you've shown is entertaining, but what the mathemeticians would call "necessary but insufficient."

    I would seek out controlled tests on this ammo and satisfy yourself about its overall performance, before committing to it as a carry round. And of course, remember you get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Nice! Paraphrasding Mas Ayoob, if the mutant zombie plastic jugs ever attack you, you're all set!

    Not raining on your parade - just recognize that your simple field test is light years away from the tests the ammo makers themselves run on their own products. What you've shown is entertaining, but what the mathemeticians would call "necessary but insufficient."

    I would seek out controlled tests on this ammo and satisfy yourself about its overall performance, before committing to it as a carry round. And of course, remember you get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbabbler View Post
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    Plus 1 on that!!!!!!!
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    Not a scientific test but I'd probably be pretty confident in it. Even with jacket separation we're still talkin' 180 grains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michael t View Post
    Plus 1 on that!!!!!!!
    I have done my own tests on this round with my CW40 summer carry gun. It shoots very well and expands in a predictable fashion. Paying crazy prices for "FBI approved" ammo gives me the hives.

    Sometimes we worry way too much about the latest and greatest ammo and not nearly enough about getting hits where we need them. Two of the best self-defense rounds out there(9mm federal 115 +P+ and the mighty .357 mag 125 JHP) do not show up very well in FBI testing. Some how they work in the real world over a long time period on actual people.

    When I fire those "magic" bullets at about 2.00 a pop, I feel a little dizzy. Wild Bill won a lot of gunfights using a smallish round ball that was not going all that fast. Perhaps people are tougher these days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbabbler View Post
    Don't be that guy
    Yeah. But, unfortunately, he's right. Those are some very pretty exploding water jugs, though. Also, I was in high school when the album from your avatar came out. Awesome album.

    I think Federal has stopped making the .40 HST in 165 grains, so I'll be moving up to the 180 grain when we run out.

    Quote Originally Posted by piguy View Post
    When I fire those "magic" bullets at about 2.00 a pop, I feel a little dizzy. Wild Bill won a lot of gunfights using a smallish round ball that was not going all that fast. Perhaps people are tougher these days?
    You're paying 2.00 a round for ammo? You're either shopping at Cheaper than Dirt for .22 LR rounds or you're buying gimmick ammo. Even top of the line .357 JHP rounds are 1.00. HST is much cheaper than that. What on earth are you buying?
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    Hopefully Winchester improved their .40 white box HP's. Six - seven years ago my crime scene techs mentioned a streak of failure to expands at close range. This concerned me since we carried .40 Glocks but with Speeir GD. If we could get some more testing of different lots I'd feel better for people using them as a primary defense load.

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    If the firearm is deployed, I don't get overly concerned with this test or that test unless of course someone is seeking the
    holy grail of ammo; which I have yet to see produced.

    ..besides, there will be more than one "POP" if it ever gets to that point.
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    I have to say that I can't ever remember being disappointed in WWB ammo.
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    While the test doesn't necessarily show how the same round would perform in real world defensive scenarios, it does show that the round is more than capable of expanding. The medium here is water and cornstarch. It's a mixture with interesting properties and is great at showing me rounds that will not expand as shown in the picture below.


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    All bullets will fail at one time or another; given the right circumstances. The trick is to choose the right one for the majority of circumstances you may encounter. For the 10mm and up in power, the tests (gel and similar) I've seen give the older cup and core bullets the advantage. They don't blow up as readily as the thinner jacketed ones do. Until someone makes the truly "magical" bullet we just have to go with what we have and hope for the best when needed. Perhaps we have become to use to the magical bullet hype put out by the add writers.

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    you know I forget about these, they shot preety good out of my G23 and Shield 40 both, may buy a box for the SR40 and see how it likes them
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