10mm Double Tap into wet paper test

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    10mm Double Tap into wet paper test

    I fired a 165 gr Gold Dot and a 180 gr Gold Dot DT into wet, bundled advertising paper with my G29. I believe the advertising bundles of paper are more dense than just wet bundled newsprint so keep that in mind...this is non-scientific. I just wanted to compare my DT carry loads.

    The 180 gr GD penetrated about 7" and expanded to about .65 inches. The paper "wound channel" was about 1" in diameter.

    The 165 gr GD penetrated about 8" and expanded to about .70 inches. The paper "wound channel" was an impressive 2+ inches in diameter.

    Both rounds were fired through 4 layers of cotton denim before hitting the wet paper.

    I fired a 200 gr CCI Blazer round into the same test setup and it penetrated 16 inches with no deformation of the bullet.

    While the 180 gr Gold Dot hit hard the paper "wound channel" created by the 165 gr Gold Dot took the show. The paper was pulverized in the channel. What does this mean? I like the 165 gr Gold Dots.



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    Welcome to the forum.

    Nice first post. Thanks for the pics. Nothing like shooting without pants on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_kayaker View Post
    Welcome to the forum.

    Nice first post. Thanks for the pics. Nothing like shooting without pants on.

    There was a lovely breeze the day of the shoot. You should try it. Just watch
    out for cactus.

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    *shudders*.....

    imagine trying to explain THAT to someone!!

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    Welcome,

    Great first post
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    Nice test, pics and write-up. Despite wetpack not being regarded as an ideal test medium it does IMO provide some valuable assessment of bullet performance.

    I use it and reckon in a comparitive sense it enables us to in essence ...''see what happens''. I certainly beats one sheet of paper but downside is it needs a lot of newsprint, and it's darned heavy when wet!
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    I got the advertising print bundles from the local post office dumpster and it was heavy when wet. I should have worn rubber gloves also as I had print ink under my fingernails for a day or so. The "test" simply showed me the difference between two of Double Tap's loads. The 165gr really did a number on the paper. It had a huge entrance hole and a pulverized wound channel. It was way more impressive than the 180gr round.

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    You need to do penetration tests on the VMD.



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    I am impressed with the GD performance as well....
    Great post and welcome to the forum....
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    Exactly what I carry in both of my S&W 10mms. Their 45acp is great stuff also!

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    Howdy from TX.

    I carry a G29 when we're at our place near the Spanish Peaks in CO. I carry Double Tap 165 GDs in town and 180s in the mountains. Your test would seem to indicate it might be better to carry the 165s, but I would think the heavier round would be better for the bigger varmits.

    Back in TX I carry a 45. A G30 or a SPR 1911 with DT 200gr GD and I've been real happy with them. Good accuracy, low flash, and no misfires of any kind.
    ...one jagged hole!

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    To me, it looks like the 180gr was driven too fast and actually overexpanded, hence the smaller recovered diameter. The 165gr GD needs all the velocity it can get to expand so it looks like it works better in a 10mm vs. a .40.

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    Nice post and good report.

    By the way, from another JEEP guy...good looking Rubicon you have there. It is now the background on my computer desktop.

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    Welcome to the forum.

    Thanks for posting this.....watching fully expanded DT 10mm ammo warms my heart in big ways.

    I have my 10mm's loaded with DT's 165 grain Golden Saber JHPs.
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    Welcome

    Good post. I'm another wet newspaper tester (and 10mm shooter). Try packing the stuff in 5 gallon plastic paint buckets. Easier to tote around, and lasts longer before falling apaprt. Bad rookie mistake not bringing your gloves, though
    Look forward to the next post.

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