Remington Golden Sabres - Bonded?

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    Remington Golden Sabres - Bonded?

    Are all GS bonded? I'm looking for .40's. I've read that the non-bonded bullets had separation problems and supposedly the bonded bullet fixes this. Any input?

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    All GS are not bonded. They are two different cartridges. Police prefer bonded because the perform better against barriers i.e. auto glass.

    Regular GS
    http://www.remingtonle.com/ammo/gshpj.htm

    Bonded:
    http://www.remingtonle.com/ammo/gshpj_b.htm

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    thinkat,
    Thanks for the info.

    If anyone carries the GS, which would you prefer? I would imagine the regular non bonded would suffice for CCW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beagler View Post
    thinkat,
    Thanks for the info.

    If anyone carries the GS, which would you prefer? I would imagine the regular non bonded would suffice for CCW.
    That's right, if you have to attack barriers your not being defensive.
    So shoot what functions best in your hand gun.

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    beagler,


    I use the GS Bonded .45ACP 230 grain for both CCW and HD.

    Mostly because the price difference isn't all that great, and because I can't 100% rule out the potential need to shoot through something. I figure the difference is worth about $9 bucks a year.

    I reload the non-bonded bulk bullets for practice, and when loaded to the same velocity in my guns the POI and functioning are the same.

    The Bonded(s) are a little harder to find though.

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    Never say never. A person probably won't be attacking barriers, but they may have to defend through barriers.

    My GS are not bonded, but only because that is what was available at the time I got the pistol.

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    I carry the Golden Sabers and I believe mine are the non-bonded type. I may have to look into switching to the bonded ones though after thinking about this.
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    Bonded

    There are differences between the bonded and non bonded GS, but... I don't see all that much of a disadvantage to a bullet that breaks off a few fragments or sheds a jacket. It just makes secondary wounds from fragmentation, and in the GS, the heavy lead core still gives plenty of penetration. In my unscientific wet newspaper testing, very occasionally a .45 230gr will shed a jacket. They perform great through barriers and clothing, too. I switch between 230gr GS and Hydra Shok in my 1911, carry the +p in my 9mm revolver and carbines, all the spares for my MK40 Kahr, and have it in all my speedloaders and speed strips for my +p .38s. Friend who carries a snub .357 swears by GS medium velocity, too.

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    I carry GS and would spend extra for the bonded if I could find them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .45acp View Post
    I carry GS and would spend extra for the bonded if I could find them.

    Ask and you shall receive.

    Find them at Sportsmans Guide

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4my son View Post
    Ask and you shall receive.

    Find them at Sportsmans Guide

    Gary has it all.
    I don't believe they carry the bonded ones. They list them as "BJHP", but that's "Brass Jacketed Hollow Point", not bonded.

    The bonded ones have a large yellow graphic on the box stating "Bonded", as shown on this page:
    http://www.remingtonle.com/ammo/gshpj_b.htm

    I've not seen that on any Golden Sabers I've ordered from Sportsmans Guide, unless they've changed stock lately.

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    Could someone tell me the difference in bonded & non-bonded?

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    surjimmy the bonded means the jacket is bonded (fused) to the core preventing sepration, and retains more bullet weight.

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    Thanks.

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