This is a discussion on Remington Golden Sabres - Bonded? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Are all GS bonded? I'm looking for .40's. I've read that the non-bonded bullets had separation problems and supposedly the bonded bullet fixes this. Any ...
Are all GS bonded? I'm looking for .40's. I've read that the non-bonded bullets had separation problems and supposedly the bonded bullet fixes this. Any input?
Thanks for the info.
If anyone carries the GS, which would you prefer? I would imagine the regular non bonded would suffice for CCW.
I use the GS Bonded .45ACP 230 grain for both CCW and HD.
Mostly because the price difference isn't all that great, and because I can't 100% rule out the potential need to shoot through something. I figure the difference is worth about $9 bucks a year.
I reload the non-bonded bulk bullets for practice, and when loaded to the same velocity in my guns the POI and functioning are the same.
The Bonded(s) are a little harder to find though.
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Never say never. A person probably won't be attacking barriers, but they may have to defend through barriers.
My GS are not bonded, but only because that is what was available at the time I got the pistol.
I carry the Golden Sabers and I believe mine are the non-bonded type. I may have to look into switching to the bonded ones though after thinking about this.
There are differences between the bonded and non bonded GS, but... I don't see all that much of a disadvantage to a bullet that breaks off a few fragments or sheds a jacket. It just makes secondary wounds from fragmentation, and in the GS, the heavy lead core still gives plenty of penetration. In my unscientific wet newspaper testing, very occasionally a .45 230gr will shed a jacket. They perform great through barriers and clothing, too. I switch between 230gr GS and Hydra Shok in my 1911, carry the +p in my 9mm revolver and carbines, all the spares for my MK40 Kahr, and have it in all my speedloaders and speed strips for my +p .38s. Friend who carries a snub .357 swears by GS medium velocity, too.
I carry GS and would spend extra for the bonded if I could find them.
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The bonded ones have a large yellow graphic on the box stating "Bonded", as shown on this page:
I've not seen that on any Golden Sabers I've ordered from Sportsmans Guide, unless they've changed stock lately.
Could someone tell me the difference in bonded & non-bonded?
surjimmy the bonded means the jacket is bonded (fused) to the core preventing sepration, and retains more bullet weight.