380 Test Results

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    Unhappy 380 test Results

    After studying all the test results for the various popular 380 expanding rounds available, I now know less than I did before. Each load has been shown in somebody's test to under-penetrate and in another's fail to expand.

    My thinking at this point is that I cannot count on any of the expanding bullets to do the job. Until a bunch of people want to volunteer for some live testing, I am going back to the FMJs.

    The WWB Value Pak FMJs I use for practice are a flat point design. They feed reliably in my gun, and have surprisingly good accuracy. They just aren't a very sexy load. Somebody please talk me out of using them.
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    Well with my Kel-Tec I plan to continue firing until I hear click. Hopefully I will have plugged seven .380 rounds into COM. I am going to stick with HP's though. The only FMJ pistol round I would use for SD is 230grs in .45 ACP!

    I am considering looking into the Corbon DPX rounds....they seem to offer a little of both worlds, some expansion with good penetration. Do they make those for .380?
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    Quote Originally Posted by obxned View Post
    My thinking at this point is that I cannot count on any of the expanding bullets to do the job.
    You never should. If it expands, it's a bonus.

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    But that's the problem - if it expands, penetration is lacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obxned View Post
    But that's the problem - if it expands, penetration is lacking.
    Says who?

    Expantion can be a very good thing. Hell, I've seen high speed photos of .45auto Federal HST fully expanding after going through a 2 inch piece of ballistic gellitan. .96" dia bullet after that.
    http://www.thegunzone.com/45hst.html

    My point is, if you're concerned of expantion and low penetration, and the test you've been looking at are showing that they apparently didn't expand at least 50% of the time, meaning it's acting like a FMJ.

    If you're desperate for a test subject, go into the country at a buddy's house and sit on the deck at night, waiting for 'coons. You'd be suprized what those buggers can take if you don't nail their head.

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    Don't count on the bullet to do its job. Do yours.....

    Shot placement is key no matter what caliber. Plus as mentioned keep firing until the threat is no longer a threat
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    In .380 the best results I've seen are coming up with Win. silvertip and hydroshock's, regular hp cor-bon don't expand, now DXP's might do much better job,.FMJ will will probable go clear through,, all things considered, I choose to carry Silvertips..

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    I've seen several people shot with .380 ball- no fatalities, even with core-body hits. Any HP is better than ball, in that at least it has the potential for more "shock/trauma". Ball is ball, and never more shall be.

    OTOH, if all your pistol feeds is ball, that answers the question- stick with what works.

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    I use a ball round in my .380 as well. The overall power of a .380 isn't enough to through and through an average human, so collateral damage seems to be a non-issue to me (unless I missed the first time).

    As for HP's, I would say pick what you want so long as it feeds reliably.

    I am not expecting any fatalities out of my .380, if I get one, fine. If I am employing my .380, it is because my primary is either not in immediate reach, or it has become nonfunctional for some reason. And, yes, there are times that my primary is not in immediate reach.
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    http://stevespages.com/page8f380acp.html

    The good rounds from the major ammo companies seem to do a whole lot better on both expansion and penetration than I would have expected - perhaps I should rethink my choice of FMJs
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    I'm using DPX. I think it is the best compromise.

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    Stephen Camp is a member of CC and does a good bit of ammo testing. He posts his results on his website. This page has several good articles about .380 ammo.
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    ....and that is why limatune was buying a "get Well" card instead of "My Condolences" card for the guy she shot with the .380


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    Here are some of the bullets I have tested for the .380.

    On the left is a Magtech first defense solid copper hollow point.

    In the middle is the Corbon JHP, not the DPX.

    On the right is the Speer Gold Dot JHP.

    I now carry either the Corbon JHP, or the Speer Gold Dot, and reload with the gold dot.

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