Ballistic Test of four different .45 rounds....(pics)

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    Tanks for the pics, I'm not overly fond of +P rounds but the standard pressure HST's might be finding thier way into my mags.

    I've been meaning to replensih my supply of JHPs, seeing as how Lima and I are both carrying .45s now, I think I need to stock up on defensive rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty908 View Post
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    Nope, I haven't forgotton...I just can't get to the range very often. I am not sure when I will get my next trip....looks like maybe a couple of weeks. Sorry, but it's a slow process for me. I WILL be sure to post the results of the Tactical Bonded as soon as I get to 'test' them.

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    Excellent report and pics, Smitty.

    Your photographic skill is outstanding!

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    Very cool! I like those Federals.. Thanks for the test and the results..

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    Smitty908, Thank You the EXCELLENT report!

    These are my main loads load for my rugged 45's(HK, Para, Wilson) I'd love to carry them in my Sig P245 but I'm scepticle about the life expectancy of the alloy frame being that those HST's are hotter than most defense loads. I just ran a reliabity test(150rds, normally I do 200 but ran out of time) in my Wilson CQB this past Friday.
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    I don't remember what state quarter that was.
    I will hopefully be testing the 9mm HST also next time I get to the range, at the request of a member here. Thank you all for the kind replies, but I just wanted to remind everyone that this is not a 'scientific' test. I am just using water to get these results, and it is just to satisfy curiosity that I do these 'tests'. I am hoping to get one of those new 'ballistic test tubes' that I can try out ammo in one of these days. Then I could post some REAL results. Thanks again for everyones' interest, as I am glad to try out these rounds and share my results with everyone!

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    Where did you get the HST's from, I looked on the web, and the usual suspects don't seem to have them, the Federal site doesn't even show them. That is of course assuming as I have read, that they are in fact not the Hydra Shocks, but a different round altogether.
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    4my,

    They are indeed not 'Hydra-Shoks'. The HST is a totally different bullet design, with no center post and a more rounded profile. (at least in the .45 version.) I buy mine locally at a law enforcement supply store called 'Gulf States Distributors' here in Montgomery. Luckily for me they have a very good selection of the HST line. 3 choices in .45, 2 choices in .40, and 3 choices of 9mm. Also, on the Federal website you have to go to the 'law enforcement ammunition' section to find the HST and Tactical Bonded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty908 View Post
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    ...called 'Gulf States Distributors' here in Montgomery.
    -Tim
    My brother lives in Montgomery, I've been in Gulf States and they had an attitude when it comes to Non-LEO types. Can a non-LEO buy the "Law-Enforecemnt" ammo?

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    jbrooks,

    Yes anyone can buy 'law enforcement' ammo from there. The LE only thing is Federal's policy, but the ammo is legal to own. As to Gulf States...I'm not LEO, and they haven't given me much attitude...granted I usually deal with the nice ladies who work there, not the guy who owns it, so I dunno?...... I like them so far, so they have my business until they give me reason to go elsewhere. I usually buy my firearms from a store in Birmingham, though.

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    Excellent post, Tim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty908 View Post
    I just wanted to remind everyone that this is not a 'scientific' test. I am just using water to get these results, and it is just to satisfy curiosity that I do these 'tests'. I am hoping to get one of those new 'ballistic test tubes' that I can try out ammo in one of these days. Then I could post some REAL results.
    The results with the "ballistic test tubes" will be similar to the water tests and will still not be scientific. But it still fun. FWIW, HST is a round that performs well in true scientific tests and is one of the best ammo choices available. Federal worked hard to make it so as the original HST had expansion problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4my son View Post
    Where did you get the HST's from, I looked on the web, and the usual suspects don't seem to have them, the Federal site doesn't even show them. That is of course assuming as I have read, that they are in fact not the Hydra Shocks, but a different round altogether.
    http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog/in...Path=23_76_122

    maybe this will help..

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    Terrific post! Thank you.

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